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Randy Moss and Mike Portnoy 05/20/2016

Friday, May 20, 201619 takes

The guys discuss the Eastern Conference Finals and Lebron's greatness as well as Canada's hatred for Sidney Crosby and his lack of a Man Card ( - ). NBC Sports horse racing analyst Randy Moss joins the show to discuss the Preakness and if any horse can beat Nyquist ( - ). Pardon My Take legal expert Mike Portnoy discusses the legal troubles the guys are in and hypothetical illegal business ventures ( - ). Segments include "People Forget That", "Sorry not Sorry", "Guys Talking Guys" and "Jimbo Of The Week"

Randy Moss and Mike Portnoy on the Preakness, Cavs Dominance, and Legal Loopholes

The Eastern Conference Finals are currently a crime scene, and Big Cat and PFT are the first responders. LeBron James is playing like a man among boys, but PFT is starting to think the hierarchy in Cleveland might be shifting toward the guy with the fancy handles.

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May 20, 2016
#14076
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cavaliers are Kyrie Irving's team now

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Cavaliers are Kyrie Irving's team now... Kyrie's awesome. He put up more shots, had more points. I think it's safe to say this is Kyrie Irving's team. And he is the missing ingredient that was not there last year in the finals.

While Kyrie was vital, LeBron James remained the clear leader, winning the 2016 Finals MVP later that season.

While Kyrie is lighting up the scoreboard, the Raptors are basically providing the NBA equivalent of a participation trophy. Big Cat is fed up with the Toronto broadcast team trying to find moral victories while losing by thirty points.

Loss
May 20, 2016
#14077
Big CatBig Cat

The Raptors are a disgrace to basketball and to Canada

The Raptors are just a disgrace, disgrace to basketball, disgrace to Canada... I don't want to be in the Eastern Conference Finals if you get swept like this.

The Raptors actually recovered to win Games 3 and 4, making this take age poorly within a week.

It’s gotten so bad that PFT is questioning the very fabric of reality regarding how Toronto even reached this stage of the postseason.

Loss
May 20, 2016
#22386
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Miami Heat-Toronto Raptors playoff series did not actually happen

This backs up my theory that the Miami Heat-Toronto Raptors series did not actually happen... I cannot imagine this Raptors team beating anybody in a seven-game series right now. I don't think that the last series happened. I think that it was just something that they sent the stats online and people saw what the final score of the game was.

The series did, in fact, happen; the Raptors defeated the Heat in 7 games.

Big Cat isn't expecting a miracle north of the border either, essentially calling the series over before the team even cleared customs.

Loss
May 20, 2016
#14078
Big CatBig Cat

The Cavaliers will sweep the Raptors

It's going to be a sweep. I don't think the Raptors can steal one in Toronto even.

The Raptors won Games 3 and 4 in Toronto; the series ended 4-2.

The Original Randy Moss

Horse racing expert Randy Moss joined the show to help the guys navigate the Preakness. While Nyquist looks like a machine, Randy warned that the track conditions at Pimlico might turn the second leg of the Triple Crown into a mudder's paradise.

Win
May 20, 2016
#14084
Randy MossRandy Moss

Nyquist is not a slam dunk to win the Preakness due to potential rain

There's a probability that it's going to be a hellaciously rainy day on Saturday. [Nyquist] has never run in conditions like that before... Whereas Exaggerator, the horse that he beat in the Derby... he won very impressively in conditions like that.

The Preakness was run in a downpour; Exaggerator won the race while Nyquist finished third.

If you're looking for a long shot to fill out your trifecta, Randy pointed toward a Japanese horse named Lani, who is apparently as erratic and temperamental as a relief pitcher with a 6.00 ERA.

Loss
May 20, 2016
#14087
Randy MossRandy Moss

The horse Lani is a good play for third place in the Preakness

There is a horse that is going to be double digits that I think is set up to run pretty well here and is a good play for third behind the top two, and that would be the Japanese horse, Lani.

Lani finished 5th in the Preakness Stakes.

Comparing Nyquist to last year's legend, American Pharoah, Randy noted that while Nyquist is a "lunch pail" professional, he doesn't quite have that world-beating aura of the Triple Crown winner.

Win
May 20, 2016
#14089
Randy MossRandy Moss

American Pharoah was more talented than Nyquist

American Pharoah was a brilliant kind of horse... American Pharoah [was] like a wild horse. Nyquist is sort of like the consummate professional... I think at this point, I would take American Pharoah. I think he has more overall talent than Nyquist.

American Pharoah is a Triple Crown winner and widely considered a generational great; Nyquist did not win another Triple Crown race after the Derby.

America's Legal Analyst

Mr. Portnoy, Esquire, returned to the program to help Big Cat and PFT navigate their various hypothetical (and some very real) legal troubles. The conversation naturally gravitated toward the Rougned Odor and Jose Bautista fight, with Mr. Portnoy suggesting that "the field" isn't the legal shield players think it is.

Void
May 20, 2016
#14096
Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

Regular assault and battery laws could and should apply to baseball fights

Being on the field like that in a baseball game especially, I don't think in my mind that in a baseball game that this is something that you could say, well, they assume the risk. I think the regular rules of assaults and battery could and should apply in this situation.

Legally, courts generally allow leagues to handle discipline internally unless there is grievous criminal negligence.

Big Cat had a slightly different interpretation of the law, viewing the diamond more like a lawless pirate ship.

Void
May 20, 2016
#14092
Big CatBig Cat

A baseball field is like international waters with no rules

As far as I can tell... a baseball field is like international waters where there are no rules.

Clearly hyperbolic and meant for comedic effect during the legal analyst segment.

The guys also pitched a new business venture: selling fake hospital bracelets so people can get out of work or family obligations. Surprisingly, the legal expert gave the green light on the legality, even if the moral ramifications are a bit murky.

Win
May 20, 2016
#22387
Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

It is not illegal to sell fake hospital bracelets as work excuses

Is it illegal [to sell fake hospital bracelets]? No. I think you could do it, but it's like with so many things, it has other ramifications.

While selling the bracelet itself isn't illegal, using it to defraud an employer could lead to civil or criminal consequences depending on the situation.

Life Advice and Grit Week

During a quick "People Forget That," Big Cat reminded everyone that Steven Adams is a literal infant in NBA years despite looking like he fought in the Civil War.

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Big CatBig Cat

People forget that Steven Adams is only 22 years old

People forget that Steven Adams is 22 years old. It's unbelievable because he looks like he's 37. It's crazy.

In May 2016, Steven Adams (born July 1993) was indeed 22.

In a moment of pure workplace wisdom, Big Cat warned listeners against the dangers of being too good at your job, citing Bartolo Colon's recent off-field headlines as proof that excellence leads to investigation.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Never draw attention to yourself at work or people will find your secrets

In life, never draw attention to yourself because then people start digging. So like if you're at work, you never want to be the guy who does a great job... Just try to be average at all times, because the minute you do something exceptional, people start witch hunting you.

The take is a philosophical stance on avoiding scrutiny by being mediocre.

The show wrapped up with a look ahead to Grit Week. The guys are hopping on an RV to document the ultimate blue-collar experience, though Big Cat did admit to a major Jimbo by planning the entire trip around the wrong week on the calendar.

Expect plenty of Tums, wings, and questionable hygiene when the RV hits the road on Sunday.

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More Takes

Open
May 20, 2016
#14079
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

There is a greater chance of America taking over Toronto than the Maple Leafs winning a Stanley Cup

I think that there's a greater chance of America, like slowly encroaching into Canada and taking their land away and taking Toronto, than there is like the Maple Leafs winning a Stanley Cup before that time.

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Neither has happened yet, but the Maple Leafs' drought has continued since 2016.
Loss
May 20, 2016
#14081
Big CatBig Cat

Canadians actually hate Sidney Crosby

Canadians hate Sidney Crosby. That's actually a fact... Everyone hates Sidney Crosby. It was just decided upon, and that's how it is. He doesn't have a man card.

While Crosby has haters, he is widely revered in Canada for his 2010 Olympic Gold winning goal.
Loss
May 20, 2016·Picks
#22388
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Take the under in the Cavaliers-Raptors series

Word to the wise, take the under in the Cavs Raptors series.

The series had a mix of results; while early games were low-scoring, Game 4 and Game 6 went over the typical totals of the era.
Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

People forget Kyrie Irving was born in Australia

People forget Kyrie Irving was born in Australia. So not a lot of people remember that.

Kyrie Irving was born in Melbourne, Australia, while his father was playing professionally there.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Once you reach a certain level of wealth, you can ignore the world and its pressure

I don't like Dan Snyder, but I respect that once you get to a certain level of wealth, you can just say fuck you to the whole world no matter what happens. The pressure of the world doesn't count. It was like Jerry Jones who basically said Greg Hardy should run for president... Once you get to a certain level, it just doesn't matter.

A subjective social commentary on billionaires.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 'Redskins' name is the only slur that has gotten less offensive over time

That is really the only word then that has gotten less offensive as time goes on. Like name any other slur and it always gets more offensive... I think white people need to kind of pat themselves on the back on this one for making Redskins no longer a racist term.

The name was eventually retired in 2020 due to overwhelming corporate and public pressure regarding its offensiveness, contradicting the idea it was becoming 'less' offensive.
Win
May 20, 2016
#14108
HankHank

The only difference between a mixtape and an album is price

[Mixtapes are] for free. Albums you have to technically pay for. You can still find it for free, but technically it costs money. Mixtapes are just for free. Musically... there's really not much of a difference.

In the mid-2010s, this was the primary distinction, though sampling rights also played a role.

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