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Friday, December 7, 201820 takes

Blake Bortles won Thursday Night Football (by being nominated for Walter Payton man of the year).(-) Week 14 preview and picks + is Joe Flacco done or finished and Aaron Rodgers upcoming fuck you tour. (-) Fanatasy Fuccbois. (-) Titans Coach Mike Vrabel joins the show to accept football guy of the week, answer some conspiracy questions, and make fun of us for not being football guys. (-) Former MMA fighter and now Comedian Brendan Schaub joins us in studio to talk about the wild transition from college football to mma to comedy and why we could probably kick his ass. (-) Segments include Lebron Blames,(-) nitpicking Zion (-) Spotify shaming where we read out loud our top songs of 2018 (-) and Hanks Grab Bag (-)

Coach Mike Vrabel and Brendan Schaub on Football Guys and Fighting

We have reached the point of the NFL season where time is officially a flat circle. Big Cat and PFT are grappling with the reality of Week 14, but the vibes are high because the boat is back. Blake Bortles was nominated for Walter Payton Man of the Year, proving once and for all that living on the beach with an unlocked front door is the peak of community service.

Week 14 Preview and the Flacco Dilemma

The guys are looking at a slate of games that feel like literal life or death for certain franchises. Big Cat is keeping a close eye on the NFC East, specifically the massive showdown between Philly and Dallas.

Win
Dec 7, 2018
#1453
Big CatBig Cat

The Cowboys will win the NFC East if they beat the Eagles in Week 14

This is the week that if the Cowboys beat the Eagles, they have basically won the NFC East. And it will be very hard for them to lose it.

The Cowboys did beat the Eagles 29-23 in Week 14 and went on to win the NFC East title.

While the Cowboys are riding high, PFT remains skeptical of their ability to actually close the deal without tripping over their own shoelaces.

Win
Dec 7, 2018
#1454
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cowboys will find a way to fuck up their season despite their current success

If there's anything I know about the Cowboys, they'll find a way to fuck it all up.

The Cowboys won the division and a playoff game but lost in the Divisional Round to the Rams, continuing their streak of not reaching an NFC Championship Game.

In the AFC, the Chiefs facing the Ravens has Big Cat questioning if we've actually seen Kansas City tested by a real defense yet. He's calling it his "Are We Sure They're Good?" game of the week.

Win
Dec 7, 2018
#26279
Big CatBig Cat

The Ravens' defense is the first real test for the Chiefs' offense

The Ravens, this is the best team the Ravens are going to play in a while. ... this is the best defense the Chiefs have played in a while. So can the Chiefs play against a good defense in cold weather in December? This is my are-we-sure-they're-good game.

The Ravens held the Chiefs to 27 points (below their 35 PPG average) and took them to overtime, proving the defense was indeed a significant test.

PFT, on the other hand, thinks the Ravens are just another victim on the schedule, serving as a warmup for Patrick Mahomes and company.

Loss
Dec 7, 2018
#26280
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Chiefs' game against the Ravens is just a tune-up game for Kansas City

I would also call this a tune-up game for KC. ... It's a tune-up game for the reasons that you said, so that we get to finally put to bed... because Kansas City's beaten a lot of teams with shitty defenses.

The game went to overtime and was decided by only three points (27-24), meaning it was far from a 'tune-up' breeze.

Speaking of the AFC, the Texans are lurking. Big Cat is terrified of his own pinky's safety, knowing that a certain path through the postseason makes Houston a lock for the Super Bowl.

Void
Dec 7, 2018
#1455
Big CatBig Cat

The Texans will reach the Super Bowl if they secure a first-round bye

If they get a bye, I think they'll go to the Super Bowl. I will be officially nervous if they get a bye because the whole time I've been like, you know what? They have to win three games. There's no way they're going to win three playoff games.

The Texans did not get a first-round bye; they were the #3 seed and lost in the Wild Card round to the Colts.

Meanwhile, in Baltimore, Joe Flacco has essentially been ghosted by his own team. The guys debated where the elite one goes next. PFT thinks there's a healthy market for a guy who should probably have two rings if his teammates could catch or kick.

Void
Dec 7, 2018
#20164
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Flacco should have beaten the Patriots and would have won two Super Bowls — he's more than borderline elite

I'm getting a little steamed up about Joe Flacco because of what you said, borderline elite. People forget he should have beaten the Patriots. He beats the shit out of the Patriots on the road. He should have beaten them in the playoffs that one year. His tight end dropped the ball. His kicker missed a kick. If they had that game won, they would have won another Super Bowl.

Flacco did nearly beat the Patriots in the 2011 AFC Championship (Lee Evans dropped TD, Billy Cundiff missed FG). Whether that makes him elite is inherently subjective.

Mike Vrabel: Certified Football Guy

Coach Mike Vrabel joined the show to officially accept his Football Guy of the Week award. The man is a machine: doing wind sprints before games and nearly dislocating his shoulder warming up with his defensive line. Vrabel didn't hold back on the guys either, calling their Combine performances "pitiful" and claiming he's seen better broad jumps from people with torn Achilles tendons.

He also gave some insight into his tactical mind. When PFT pressed him on a specific penalty against the Jets, Vrabel played the "you'll never know" card with the perfect amount of coach-speak.

Win
Dec 7, 2018
#26283
Mike VrabelMike Vrabel

Confirming the Titans intentionally put 12 men on the field to stop the clock against the Jets

[PFT Commenter]: Was that on purpose so that you could stop the clock? [Mike Vrabel]: You'll never know. ... [PFT Commenter]: Based on how quickly you answered, I'd say absolutely. That was on purpose. [Mike Vrabel]: I didn't look too pissed off when it happened, did I?

Vrabel's non-denial and subsequent comments are widely accepted by the show and analysts as an admission of the intentional strategy.

Brendan Schaub on the Octagon and Comedy

Former UFC fighter turned comedian Brendan Schaub sat down in studio to talk about the wild transition from being punched in the face to being heckled on stage. He’s been around some of the biggest spectacles in combat sports, including that legendary night in Vegas for Mayweather-McGregor where the guys were sitting right in front of him.

When it comes to the future of the sport, Schaub sees the UFC following a very familiar script. He notes that the promotional tactics and business moves are starting to look exactly like something out of Vince McMahon's playbook.

Win
Dec 7, 2018
#1461
Brendan SchaubBrendan Schaub

The UFC is copying the WWE business plan to a T

Vince McMahon is where the UFC, if you watch what WWE has done, the UFC's copying their plan to a tee. So if they make a move, plan on the UFC making the same move.

In 2023, the UFC and WWE merged into a single public company, TKO Group Holdings, essentially becoming the same business entity.

He also got serious about the long-term health of fighters. While the sport is booming, Schaub expects a major day of reckoning regarding the physical toll the Octagon takes on its stars.

Open
Dec 7, 2018
#26284
Brendan SchaubBrendan Schaub

A reckoning regarding concussions and CTE is coming for the UFC

Oh, my God. Yeah, it's a matter of time. ... There's a lot of those guys who, I won't say names, a lot of famous guys you grew up watching who aren't doing well now. You see them get arrested or not doing well, but it's just a matter of time.

As more former UFC stars retire and age, reports of brain trauma and behavioral issues have increased, though a singular 'NFL-style' lawsuit outcome is still evolving.

LeBron Blames and Nitpicking Zion

LeBron James is entering his "I'm old" era of tweeting, and Big Cat isn't buying the excuse of sleeping for 11 hours and missing a company holiday party.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is dropping 'I'm washed' hints to pre-excuse not winning a title with the Lakers

LeBron, though, is definitely going to start dropping these hints to pre-excuse not winning another title. He's old. He needs help.

LeBron did continue to lean into the 'Washed King' narrative throughout the 2019 season and beyond, famously using the #WashedKing hashtag after winning the 2020 title.

In college hoops, the guys are finding ways to nitpick Zion Williamson because he's simply too good. PFT has a specific theory about Zion's highlight-reel blocks that actually makes them sound like a detriment to the Blue Devils.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Zion Williamson blocking shots into the crowd is effectively a turnover

But when you block a shot and the ball goes into the crowd, that's a turnover. You might as well be turning the ball over, Hank. Why doesn't he catch the balls instead of blocking them?

Mathematically, a block out of bounds returns the ball to the offense, so it is less efficient than a block kept in play, though calling it a 'turnover' is literal exaggeration.

The show wrapped up with Spotify shaming and a look at the Cardi B and Offset divorce news, where Hank did a deep dive into New York asset law that was surprisingly thorough for a guy who once thought a pretzel was a cracker.

You really haven't lived until you've heard PFT explain why a dog's sneeze is the most honest thing in nature.

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More Takes

Loss
Dec 7, 2018
#1456
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

There are 10 NFL teams that would want Joe Flacco to be their starting quarterback next year

There are probably 10 teams that would want Flacco to start for them next year.

Flacco was traded to the Broncos to be their starter, but few other teams were aggressively pursuing him as a clear QB1, making 10 teams an exaggeration.
Loss
Dec 7, 2018
#1457
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Flacco will eventually sign with the Washington Redskins and go 8-8 for three years

He might sign with the [Redskins] and just, like, make the commute from Baltimore... and go 8-8 for the next three years.

Flacco never signed with Washington; he went to Denver, then the Jets, and later the Browns.
Loss
Dec 7, 2018·Picks
#1459
Big CatBig Cat

The Panthers should cut Cam Newton if they lose to the Browns

Panthers, by the way... if you lose this, maybe cut Cam Newton. Cut him. Straight up cut him.

The Panthers did lose to the Browns (26-20), and they did not cut Cam Newton.
Win
Dec 7, 2018·Picks
#26281
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Andy Reid was a 'candy ass' for praising the Raiders after beating them

Andy Reid was a candy ass last weekend after they beat the Raiders on the road. He gave him a big pat on the back and said, I love you guys. Great win. ... Andy, I don't think that it was [a good football team].

The Raiders finished the 2018 season 4-12, supporting PFT's assessment that they weren't a 'good football team' worth such high praise.
Loss
Dec 7, 2018·Picks
#26282
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I'm riding the Mark Sanchez train with the Redskins

I'm riding the Sanchez train. ... Really glad they didn't sign Kaepernick because he didn't fit the style of Mark Sanchez.

Sanchez was benched during his second start after throwing zero touchdowns and three interceptions in his stint as the starter.
Push
Dec 7, 2018
#1458
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Rodgers will play his best game of the season to prove Mike McCarthy was the problem

I feel like Aaron Rodgers is going to try to ball out so he can say Mike McCarthy was the problem. Absolutely. That is exactly what's going to go on. He's going to play the best game of the season.

Rodgers played well in a 34-20 win over the Falcons (103.7 rating, 0 INTs), which was one of his better games that season, though 'best' is subjective.
Win
Dec 7, 2018
#1460
Brendan SchaubBrendan Schaub

Conor McGregor will never fight in boxing again

In boxing, no, unless it's some sad story 30 years from now. But no, not in boxing.

As of 2024, Conor McGregor has not fought in a professional boxing match since the Mayweather fight in 2017.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dogs never have bad sneezes because they don't give a shit

You never see a dog have a bad sneeze. Because they don't give a shit. They're cute, and they're cute. They'll sneeze right in your face, and they don't think it's gross.

The quality of a sneeze is purely subjective, but PFT's observation on the lack of social shame in dogs is accurate.
Void
HankHank

The Migos rapper Offset is a 'gold digger' in his divorce from Cardi B

Migos rapper stands to make $50 million in a divorce with Cardi B. ... New York law is clear that any asset that is acquired or developed during a marriage is owned 50% by each spouse, and Cardi B's entire brand was developed during her marriage to Offset. ... So he doesn't have to give her 50% of his shit because it was already, like, created.

The couple eventually reconciled and called off several divorce filings over the following years, making the $50 million payout claim moot.

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