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Blake Bortles & Stingray Steve 11/23/16

Wednesday, November 23, 201613 takes

Thanksgiving time is here, time to loosen up the belt, crack a beer, and watch some football. NFL Picks for Turkey Day. Hot Seat/Cool Throne. Special Edition Mt Rushmore for favorite Thanksgiving activities. Bonus Mt. Flushmore for least favorite Thanksgiving day activities. Blake Bortles joins the show for the monthly Blake Bortles Wikipedia Club with topics "Tryptophan" and "Question Dodging". Stingray Steve joins to give his College Football call of the week. Segments include People Forget That, Locker Room Talk with Lenny Dykstra, Sabermetrics, Talking Soccer, and Thoughts and Prayers. The triumphant return of "Uhhhh Hey JJ" and a special bonus leaked scene from the new Matthew Dellavedova Movie.

Blake Bortles and Stingray Steve on Thanksgiving, Wikipedia Club, and J.J. Watt

It is officially the start of holiday weight season. Big Cat and PFT are leaning into the Thanksgiving spirit, which for them means a pass to drink too much, eat until it hurts, and gamble on every single game on the slate. They kicked things off by reflecting on the NFL's trip to Mexico City, which Big Cat found infinitely more entertaining than the usual London drudgery.

Void
Nov 23, 2016
#17894
Big CatBig Cat

NFL games in Mexico are much more electric than games in England

Mexico. I actually, that was an electric game. It was the exact opposite of football in England. England is so fucking boring. Everyone looks like it's a chore to be there... Mexico. They had the shot of the barbed wire. It felt like the Thunderdome.

This is a subjective opinion about atmosphere and fan engagement.

With Turkey Day around the corner, the guys laid out their picks for the holiday triple-header. While Detroit is actually putting together a decent season for once, PFT isn't exactly buying into the hype quite yet.

Loss
Nov 23, 2016
#22445
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 2016 Detroit Lions are a 'Haley's Comet' team that will likely get their asses kicked on Thanksgiving

Detroit, they're actually leading their division, and they're playing on Thanksgiving. I'm so used to watching shitty Lions teams. This is like Haley's Comet. It happens once every 75 years where you have a good Detroit team playing. You know what that means, though. They're going to get their asses kicked off.

The Lions actually beat the Vikings 16-13 on Thanksgiving 2016, so PFT was wrong about them getting their asses kicked.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Mount Rushmore

In a special holiday edition of Hot Seat/Cool Throne, Big Cat wasted no time putting the next Texas head coach on notice before the job was even officially open.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

The next Texas head coach is already on the hot seat

My hot seat, the next Texas coach. Just throw him on the hot seat right away. Because guess what? Texas winning culture. Haven't won in a while.

Charlie Strong was fired days later and Tom Herman was hired; Herman was eventually fired in 2020 after failing to meet high expectations, proving the perpetual 'hot seat' nature of the job.

PFT put the college relationship on the Hot Seat, noting that being back in your hometown for the weekend is the ultimate Cool Throne for high school sweethearts. The holiday vibes continued with a Mount Rushmore of Thanksgiving activities. While Big Cat and Millmore focused on the glory of napping and throwing a football with a beer in one hand, PFT used his platform to air a long-standing grievance against a certain New York tradition.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade is the most overrated thing in the world

Macy's Thanksgiving Parade is the most overrated thing in the entire world. Even more overrated than the show Friends. It is the worst. I hate it.

This is an inherently subjective opinion about a cultural event.

Blake Bortles Wikipedia Club

Our good friend Blake Bortles joined the show for his monthly Wikipedia Club check-in. The topics of the day were Tryptophan and Question Dodging, both highly relevant for a quarterback during the holidays. After failing the reading portion of the segment regarding chemical formulas, Blake weighed in on the coaching philosophy of Will Muschamp.

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Blake BortlesBlake Bortles

Thanksgiving should be a full holiday, not just a meal as Will Muschamp suggests

Will Muschamp came out and said for South Carolina, Thanksgiving's a meal, not a day. We're going to practice in the morning... I also totally disagree with that. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday, and it is fully worth having a full day for.

This is a subjective preference for holiday celebration.

The guys also helped Blake come to terms with some recent Twitter drama involving a photo that revealed he might be losing his hair. Suggestions ranged from rocking a do-rag to getting hair implants like Brian Urlacher, though the "fake spiky hair visor" was the early front-runner.

Stingray Steve and the Dagger in Austin

Stingray Steve called in to deliver his college football call of the week, focusing on the absolute disaster that was Texas losing to Kansas. To Stingray, this wasn't just a loss; it was the final nail in the coffin for the Charlie Strong era.

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Stingray SteveStingray Steve

The loss to Kansas is the definitive end for Charlie Strong at Texas

I want to do basically what I think is the dagger in Charlie Strong's contract and job there in Texas... Kansas, the dagger in Charlie Strong's heart. Can you believe it? A new coach is now going to be at Texas and at LSU.

Charlie Strong was fired on November 26, 2016, just a few days after this game and episode.

When the conversation turned to his beloved Mississippi State, Stingray showed some uncharacteristic restraint regarding Dan Mullen's future, though he was less than kind to the staff around him.

Win
Nov 23, 2016
#22447
Stingray SteveStingray Steve

Mississippi State doesn't need to fire Dan Mullen, but the assistant coaches must be evaluated

If we do make a change, I don't think it needs to be Coach Mullen... I don't think we need to go to the extreme of getting rid of him but I think the assistant coaches need to look... he needs to take a hard look in the mirror.

Dan Mullen stayed through the 2017 season before leaving for Florida, so Steve was correct that he shouldn't/wouldn't be the one to go yet.

Locker Room Talk and Hey J.J.

In segments, the guys tackled the strange hazing story coming out of the Rangers' organization. While the rest of the media was pearl-clutching, Big Cat saw it through a different lens.

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Big CatBig Cat

The Rangers' hazing incident where a teammate was 'jerked off' is just standard locker room talk

I know that a lot of people are like, wow, that's horrific, but guess what? That's locker room talk. That's guys just jerking each other off. What else are you supposed to do? How am I supposed to know that you have my back when we're playing a baseball game if I've never jerked you off?

The claim is that this behavior is necessary for team success; it is inherently subjective and satirical.

We also saw the triumphant return of "Uhhhh Hey JJ" after J.J. Watt posted a bizarrely cinematic Players' Tribune article. Big Cat wasn't buying the humble "kid from Pewaukee" act, especially when it involved J.J. standing on a field watching kids wear his own jersey in what felt like a self-produced fever dream.

Void
Nov 23, 2016·Hey Jj
#17902
Big CatBig Cat

J.J. Watt’s Players' Tribune article is basically erotic fan fiction he wrote about himself

One was wearing a 99 jersey with my name on the back, and another was wearing shoes with my logo on them... That was some fucking fan fiction erotic art shit for J.J. Watt. He hired a J.J. Watt mega fan to write that passage.

The article's content is factual in that Watt wrote it, but Big Cat's 'fan fiction' label is a subjective critique of the style.

To wrap up the holiday special, PFT treated us to a leaked scene from the upcoming Matthew Dellavedova biopic, *True Grit 2*, featuring an Australian accent that can only be described as haunting.

Don't be an asshole this weekend: call a cab and enjoy the gravy.

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Win
Nov 23, 2016·Picks
#17895
Big CatBig Cat

I'm taking the Lions to beat the Vikings on Thanksgiving

I'm going to take the Lions because I took the Vikings on the Pick'em podcast. That's how you keep yourself even there.

The Lions defeated the Vikings 16-13 on November 24, 2016.
Win
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#17896
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I'm taking the Steelers to beat the Colts on Thanksgiving

I got the Vikings, I got the R-words, and I have the Steelers.

The Steelers beat the Colts 28-7 on November 24, 2016.
Void
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If the NCAA vacates Notre Dame's wins, they should also vacate Brian Kelly's history of killing a kid

If they vacated all these wins, then Brian Kelly never killed that kid. Goes both ways, right? If you're going to take away the good stuff, you've got to take away the bad stuff. Just be consistent.

This is a satirical logical argument, not a factual prediction.
Win
Nov 23, 2016·Hey Jj
#17903
Big CatBig Cat

J.J. Watt released the first-ever non-retirement announcement for a retirement nobody expected

J.J. Watt just had the first ever non-retirement announcement. No one was wondering if he was retiring. But he's like, hey, guys, if any of you are wondering, yeah, I'm not retiring.

Watt did not retire in 2016 and continued to play until the end of the 2022 season.

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