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Jared Goff 12/02/16

Friday, December 2, 201622 takes

The guys are live from Detroit and the MAC Championship. Tiger is back and Mike Zimmer needs an eye patch. Power Rankings of conversations you least want to get into. LA Rams Quarterback Jared Goff joins the show to talk about facing Tom Brady, the Sun, and a possible name change for marketing purposes. Segments include Thoughts and Prayers, Peter King Ate The Trash Again, Hurt or Injured, Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules, and Jimbos of the week

Jared Goff on the Sun, Jeff Fisher, and Facing Tom Brady

Big Cat and PFT Commenter are live from Detroit for the MAC Championship, kicking off the Natty Tour in style. The energy is high as they prepare for a weekend of college football and RV life, but the real news of the day is the return of Tiger Woods. Tiger is back on the course, though the guys are looking at his performance through a very specific lens.

Void
Dec 2, 2016
#26993
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tiger Woods intentionally shot over par because a 69 would have triggered his sex addiction

Tiger, as we know, is a sex addict, and we all have triggers when it comes to things. He cannot go out there and shoot a 69. He knew that. He knew that would be a trigger for him. [He would march] right back into a Hooters. It took a lot of mental strength for him to not fall into that trap.

This is a satirical theory that cannot be factually proven, though Tiger did literally shoot one over par (73) instead of a 69.

While the Tiger fanboys were out in full force after a strong front nine, Big Cat isn't ready to buy back into the hype just yet. The sponsorship situation is also getting a bit grim, with Tiger moving from elite global brands to being a Monster Energy guy.

Push
Dec 2, 2016
#1257
Big CatBig Cat

Tiger Woods will never again look like his old self for four straight days at the highest level

Show me Tiger Woods four days in a row at the highest level. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. Not going to happen.

While Tiger did win the 2019 Masters (a high-level, 4-day performance), for the vast majority of his post-2016 career, injuries prevented him from consistent 4-day dominance.
Loss
Dec 2, 2016
#1258
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tiger Woods took a Monster Energy sponsorship because he wants to turn into a 'JV' version of himself

I'd like to see Tiger turn into Cabrera, the guy that smokes on the golf course. I'd like to see Tiger just embrace the new weird, washed up, second rate C plus JV Tiger and just start smoking.

OpinionGolfMediumSarcastic
Tiger never actually started smoking on the course like Angel Cabrera or John Daly, though he did lean into a different public persona later.

Mike Zimmer's Eye Patch and Coaching Toughness

Coach Mike Zimmer had to miss the Vikings game due to emergency eye surgery, which led to a legendary 10-minute discussion on the RV about the potential for Zimmer to coach with a black eye patch. PFT is convinced that certain coaches would have absolutely leaned into the aesthetic for branding purposes.

Void
Dec 2, 2016
#1259
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL should have logo-branded eyepatches for coaches like Mike Zimmer

If it was Jack [Del Rio] or if it was like Bruce Arians, Pete Carroll... They would have their team logo put on the eyepatch. Rex Ryan would for sure.

This is a subjective opinion on coach marketing, though Zimmer did not actually wear a branded patch.

Despite the coaching absence, Sam Bradford actually put together a gutsy performance that had the guys reconsidering the trade that brought him to Minnesota. Even with the loss, PFT is ready to call the trade a win for the Vikings front office.

Loss
Dec 2, 2016
#26994
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sam Bradford is officially worth the two draft picks the Vikings traded for him

[Sam Bradford] is probably worth the two picks now, right? Yeah. I think so. Good call. You nailed that one.

The trade (a 1st and a 4th) is widely considered a failure as the Vikings missed the 2016 playoffs and Bradford's 2017 season was derailed by injury.

Jared Goff on Being a "Football Guy"

L.A. Rams rookie quarterback Jared Goff joined the show to discuss his transition to the NFL, his upcoming matchup against Tom Brady, and the infamous Hard Knocks moment where he didn't know where the sun rose. Goff was a great sport about the "sun-gate" drama, though he did admit he hasn't officially graduated from Cal yet. When the conversation turned to his childhood fandom, Goff revealed some strong feelings about the post-Jeff Garcia era in San Francisco.

Win
Dec 2, 2016
#1263
Jared GoffJared Goff

I grew up a 49ers fan and could never get on board with Tim Rattay because they were terrible with him

I guess not a fan of was Tim Rattay... He was the Niners quarterback when I was... or one of them, one of the many when I was growing up. And I was a big Niner fan, and they were terrible with him. I could never get on board with him ever.

The 49ers were indeed struggling during the Rattay years (mid-2000s).

Big Cat and PFT also grilled him on his current head coach, Jeff Fisher, trying to determine if the man with the famously long shirts is the ultimate "football guy."

Win
Dec 2, 2016
#1264
Jared GoffJared Goff

Jeff Fisher is as big of a 'football guy' as they come

As big of a football guy as I come... I mean, that's his whole deal. I mean, he's there all day, and obviously he's been a head coach for a long time, been in football longer than a lot of head coaches in the league.

Jeff Fisher's tenure and persona fit the PMT definition of a 'Football Guy'.
Void
Dec 2, 2016
#26995
Jared GoffJared Goff

If you use the terms 'San Fran' or 'Frisco' to describe San Francisco, you are clearly not from the Bay Area

Frisco's bad. If you're from the Bay Area, the city is San Francisco. You would never really say, I'm going to San Francisco. You'd say, I'm going to the city. If somebody says they're going to San Fran or Frisco, you know they're not from there.

This is a widely recognized cultural shibboleth for Northern California residents.

Hurt or Injured: The Gronk Dilemma

There was a dark cloud over the episode as the news broke that Rob Gronkowski would be undergoing back surgery. Hank was visibly devastated, but the guys tried to find the silver lining in the numbers. With Gronk stuck at 69 career touchdowns, there is a certain level of destiny at play.

Loss
HankHank

Rob Gronkowski might retire at 69 touchdowns just for the joke

Rob Gronkowski might retire just for the joke... No, but it's like a destiny thing. It really is a destiny thing. I don't think he wants to retire, but it's written in the stars.

Gronkowski did not retire on 69 touchdowns; he finished his career with 92 regular-season touchdowns.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Rob Gronkowski is the best player in the NFL

I honestly think he's the best player in the NFL.

Gronk's peak dominance makes this a valid but highly debated opinion in the 2016 landscape.

MLB's War on Chewing Tobacco

In a segment on the new MLB labor deal, PFT expressed his outrage over the league's decision to ban chewing tobacco for new players. In his eyes, this is a clear overreach that limits a player's freedom to make their own health choices.

Loss
Dec 2, 2016
#1266
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The MLB ban on chewing tobacco is an infringement on a player's right to get cancer

I think it's offensive to me. You should have the right to get cancer if you want it. And you're stealing that right from baseball players.

Hot TakeBaseballHotSarcastic
The health benefits of the ban are scientifically established, making the literal claim incorrect, though it's clearly a joke.
Win
Dec 2, 2016
#1267
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Every person who hasn't chewed tobacco has eventually died

Every person that hasn't chewed tobacco has died in history. A little sabermetrics word. Or will die. Just written facts, dude.

Literally true because everyone dies eventually, but functionally irrelevant to the safety of tobacco.

To close out the week, the guys went through a round of Jimbos, featuring a laser tag mishap that involved black lights and a very unfortunate stain. Rather than being embarrassed, PFT suggested that a visible "splooge" stain is actually a biological power move.

Loss
Dec 2, 2016·Jimbos
#1273
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A visible semen stain on your pants is proof that you are in your sexual prime

It means, it's a confirmation that you're sexually, that you're in your sexual prime... Girls, they're biologically tuned to seek out guys that look fertile. What better proof is there than just having your boys dripping out of your fly?

Hot TakeLifeScorchingSarcastic
Socially and biologically, this is not an attractive trait for human mating, making the literal claim incorrect.

See you guys in Indy.

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Push
Dec 2, 2016·Picks
#1260
Big CatBig Cat

This week in the NFL will be a 'wonky' week where crazy things happen

I think there's gonna be a wonky week. It's one of those weeks where it's just like crazy things happen I just have a feeling... I just I feel like this is gonna be a wonky week.

NFL Week 13 2016 saw some upsets (Chiefs over Falcons, Bucs over Chargers), but wasn't exceptionally 'wonky' relative to NFL norms.
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Dec 2, 2016·Picks
#1261
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Vegas is going to make a huge profit in Week 13 at the expense of home underdogs

This is the week that Vegas really sticks it to people. And I think that it's going to come at the expense of a lot of home dogs.

In Week 13 2016, home dogs went 2-1 against the spread (Bears and Jaguars covered, Falcons did not).
Void
Dec 2, 2016·Picks
#1262
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You shouldn't bet your life savings on any single game this weekend; spread it out

I don't feel comfortable betting all my life savings on one game, I would spread it out.

General gambling advice is subjective, but usually mathematically sound to diversify.
Void
Dec 2, 2016
#1265
Jared GoffJared Goff

I'm a sports fan overall, not just a 'football guy' because it's my job

I've been playing my whole life, but I think I'm just more of an overall sports fan. Really, I like every sport. I played all three growing up... I'm more of just a sports fan, but obviously I am a football guy because I do play the sport as a living.

This is Goff's self-identification.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Attempting to keep Mike Zimmer's blood pressure low is an impossible task

Trying to keep Mike Zimmer's blood pressure low is like Sisyphus pushing that rock up a hill. Because that is a task that it's impossible. The second it lowers, it's going to spike back up again. He can't do it.

This is a hyperbolic personality assessment of Mike Zimmer's coaching style.
Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Patriots will be fine without Rob Gronkowski because Martellus Bennett is a very talented tight end

The good news for the Patriots is they do have [Martellus] Bennett, right? And Bennett is a really good tight end. The Patriots, yeah, they'll take a step back, but it's not the end of the world.

The Patriots won the Super Bowl that season without Gronkowski, with Martellus Bennett leading the team in touchdown receptions and starting the game.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Richie Incognito is the kind of guy you want on your side when the chips are down

He is that dude that you want on your side when the chips are down. Yeah. He's that dude. He really is.

This is a personality assessment.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Training yourself to say 'tuckus' instead of 'ass' makes you a giant 'tuckus hole'

Do you know how big of a tuckus hole you need to be to actually do that in college? ...What a fucking tuckus. God I hate, I hate that.

A subjective insult about personality and 'journalism' pretension.
Loss
Dec 2, 2016·Jimbos
#1272
Big CatBig Cat

Girls actually like guys who fart and burp in their face

Girls actually like a guy that farts. A lot. And burps in her face. That shows a certain level of masculinity.

Hot TakeLifeScorchingSarcastic
The vast majority of women would find this behavior repulsive, making the literal claim incorrect.

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