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Packers HC Matt LaFleur, We Riot + Mount Rushmore Of Magic Johnson's Favorite Things

Wednesday, August 14, 201916 takes

Hard Knocks episode 2 happened and we were forced to semi riot because they kind of sort of addressed Antonio Brown helmetgate ( - ). We have secured 2 of the helmets AB is looking for and offer them to him for a simple trade ( - ). Dak Prescott is a master negotiator ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ). Mt Rushmore of things off Magic Johnson's list of things he likes for his 60th birthday ( - ). Packers HC Matt LaFluer joins the show to talk about getting the Green Bay job, his relationship with Aaron Rodgers, whether or not he's scared of Khalil Mack, and coming up under Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay ( - ). Segments include hurt or injured Andrew Luck, PMT sports biz minute, way to stay relevant baseball, thoughts and prayers A-Rod got robbed, and a special edition of Guys in Labor to talk Unions

Matt LaFleur on the Packers, Magic Johnson's Favorites, and Antonio Brown's Helmet

Big Cat and PFT Commenter are fresh off a trip to Green Bay, which Big Cat describes as a total dump despite the Title Town pedigree. The guys are coming off a semi-successful riot following the second episode of Hard Knocks. While they technically got the Antonio Brown helmet content they demanded, the footage of his "circumcised" feet was a bit more than anyone asked for.

Speaking of the helmet saga, PFT has actually sourced two Schutt Air Advantage helmets in AB's size. He’s ready to hand them over, but the price isn't a game-worn Raiders helmet. The price is much, much weirder.

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Aug 14, 2019
#28387
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I will give Antonio Brown two certified helmets if he simulates eating Derek Carr's ass as a touchdown celebration

We have tracked down two of these [Schutt Air Advantage] helmets in his size... he said that if we can find one and he can get one, he'll trade a Raiders used helmet. And we don't want that. In return, we want you to do a touchdown dance for us... Either eat Derek Carr's ass or P.F. Chang's with Mark Davis... You gotta simulate ass eating. You get both helmets.

This was a comedic offer that Antonio Brown did not accept, and the celebration never occurred.

Dak Prescott and the Art of the Deal

While AB is fighting for his headgear, Dak Prescott is busy resetting the quarterback market. Rumors of Dak asking for $40 million a year have sent the guys into a spiral. Big Cat thinks the number is insane for a guy who still needs to prove he can carry the Cowboys to the big game.

Void
Aug 14, 2019
#17430
Big CatBig Cat

Dak Prescott is not worth $40 million per year

I don't think he's worth 40 million dollars. And I think that you probably have to sit down, Dak, and be like, dude, I know that you want this much money, but would you rather this much money or maybe win a Super Bowl with the Dallas Cowboys?

Dak eventually signed a 4-year, $160M contract ($40M/year) in 2021. While the cap rose, he has not yet led them to a Super Bowl, though he has played at a high level.

Naturally, PFT is taking the opposite approach. Since he isn't a Cowboys fan, he wants Jerry Jones to empty the entire vault for Dak just to see what happens to their cap space.

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Aug 14, 2019
#17431
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cowboys should pay Dak Prescott $75 million per year

As not a Dallas Cowboys fan, I hope they pay Dak as much money as possible. 70. 75. Okay. Fuck it. Deal. Full send.

Obviously, no player in 2019 was being paid $75M/year, making this hyperbolic and incorrect in literal terms.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank leads off Hot Seat with Michael Porter Jr., whose absence from the court is starting to feel permanent. Between dabbing and doxxing the commissioner, MPJ is finding ways to stay in the news without actually playing basketball.

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HankHank

Michael Porter Jr.'s spine is made of dust

My hot seat is Michael Porter Jr. You guys remember him? Remember he's in the NBA? Has yet to play a minute. His spine is made of dust.

While Porter has had multiple back surgeries, he has played 5+ seasons and won a championship, proving his spine is not literally dust.

Adam Silver finds himself on the hot seat after his personal cell phone number was displayed during a presentation. While most people see a clerical error, PFT sees a deep-state conspiracy by the commissioner to get a new phone.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Adam Silver intentionally leaked his own phone number so he could smash his phone and hide something else

Do you think he actually planted that? Like he was cool with being doxxed because he's the accessible commissioner. Ooh, maybe he's got something to hide. So he deliberately got his phone [doxxed] so that people aren't sniffing around the other stuff.

There is no evidence that the leak was intentional or part of a cover-up.

On the Cool Throne, Four Loko is back in the mix with a supposed hard seltzer that boasts a terrifying 14% ABV. PFT remains skeptical of the marketing, suggesting that if you're going for the Four Loko brand, you don't settle for middle-of-the-road ABV numbers.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Four Loko hard seltzer isn't real

I think that the Four Loko thing is fake. I'm very woke on this because there was no link to the product whatsoever. It was a Photoshop that Four Loko put out there... here's why I think it's fake is because if you're going to make something 14% alcohol, why not just make it 20?

The Four Loko Hard Seltzer was a real product released shortly after this viral teaser.

Matt LaFleur Joins the Show

New Packers head coach Matt LaFleur sat down with Big Cat and PFT to talk about the transition to Green Bay and the infamous boot he's wearing after a knockout-related Achilles injury. Despite being one of the younger coaches in the league, LaFleur isn't worried about the age gap between him and his veteran players.

Void
Aug 14, 2019
#17436
Matt LaFleurMatt LaFleur

I don't think you can put an age on leadership

I don't think you can put any type of age on leadership. I saw Sean [McVay] firsthand and I thought he did as good a job as anybody I've been around in terms of getting the respect and the command from the team.

This is a philosophical coaching take that cannot be definitively proven or disproven.

He discussed the culture he's building in Wisconsin, which includes a very strict stance on training camp extracurriculars. While some coaches let a few punches slide to "build grit," LaFleur is keeping things professional.

Win
Aug 14, 2019
#17437
Matt LaFleurMatt LaFleur

The Packers will have zero tolerance for fighting in training camp

No tolerance there... zero tolerance at all. You fight you're out. Just for the day. And don't get me wrong, skirmishes are going to happen. You don't want to see haymakers being thrown, especially when it's your own teammate.

This refers to his internal team policy during the 2019 camp.

Football nerds will be happy to hear that the fullback isn't dead in Green Bay. LaFleur is leaning into the 21 personnel, looking to use Danny Vitale as a legitimate Swiss Army knife in the offense.

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Aug 14, 2019
#17438
Matt LaFleurMatt LaFleur

The Packers will utilize the fullback position as a weapon this year

Danny [Vitale]'s been awesome. We want to be able to run everything out of 21 personnel. And a lot of teams don't see that anymore. So it is a little bit of an advantage, especially if you get a guy that can catch the ball out of the backfield.

Vitale played 15 games in 2019, catching 7 passes for 97 yards and serving as a lead blocker, though he wasn't a statistical 'weapon' in the traditional sense.

Mount Rushmore of Magic Johnson's Favorite Things

In honor of Magic Johnson turning 60, the legend released four separate lists of 60 things he loves. In typical Magic fashion, the lists were mostly alphabetical and completely baffling. The guys drafted their own Mount Rushmores from his selections, with Hank immediately snatching the gold standard of 2000s comedy.

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HankHank

Chappelle's Show is the greatest TV show of all time

Chappelle's show... Greatest show of all time. Undeniably the number one pick.

Greatest of all time is an unresolvable matter of opinion.

Hurt or Injured: Andrew Luck

The episode wraps up with a check-in on Andrew Luck, whose "calf strain" is starting to feel like a mystery novel. Big Cat is officially sounding the alarm that this might be a much longer absence than Colts fans are being led to believe.

Win
Aug 14, 2019
#17440
Big CatBig Cat

Andrew Luck's injury might be way worse than reported

Andrew Luck has a weird random injury that might keep him out for a lot longer than everyone expects. Calf strain has turned into a high ankle issue... That's like being like, oh yeah, my sniffles turned into the flu.

Andrew Luck retired on August 24, 2019, because he was 'tired' of the injury cycle, confirming Big Cat's suspicion that this was much more than a minor calf strain.

Finally, a special edition of "Guys in Labor" breaks down the recent unionization efforts at The Ringer. PFT notes that while Dave Portnoy is playing the villain on Twitter, the real drama might be happening behind the scenes with Bill Simmons.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill Simmons genuinely wants to stop the union at The Ringer

There's a part of me that thinks that what Dave was doing part edge stick today is exactly what Bill Simmons wants to do for real. Bill Simmons lucked into this day because holy shit.

The Ringer Union eventually successfully negotiated their first contract in 2021 after a lengthy process.

Hopefully, Andrew Luck tries the Ochocinco warm urine soak before Week 1.

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Void
Aug 14, 2019
#17429
Big CatBig Cat

Green Bay is kind of a dump

We went up to Green Bay. Kind of a dump. We talked to Matt LaFleur about coaching Aaron Rodgers. They call it title town for a reason, folks.

Whether a city is a 'dump' is purely a matter of personal opinion.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL teams should be allowed to give one rookie a monk haircut as team building

I think that you should be allowed to give one rookie a monk. Yes, yes, I agree. That's not hazing, that's team building. That's funny. Big difference. If it's funny, it's not hazing.

This is a subjective opinion on team building versus hazing.
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Big CatBig Cat

Home Depot is the ultimate masculine experience if you don't ask for help

I successfully went to Home Depot and got what I needed without asking anyone. And there's no better feeling in the world. You feel like the manliest man that's ever walked Earth. It took me about 25 minutes to find the wood glue, but I did it.

This is an internal subjective feeling.
Push
Aug 14, 2019
#17439
Matt LaFleurMatt LaFleur

The pass interference review rule could favor the defense because of rub and pick plays

Honestly, I think it could be an advantage from a defensive perspective, considering that all scoring plays are under automatic review. And you see a lot of rub or pick plays down in that red area. So it could actually help the defense.

The rule was widely criticized and largely abandoned after one season (2019) due to lack of consistency in overturning calls.

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