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#PMT-2018-1109-18428
HankHank

Duke could beat the Cleveland Cavaliers

Zion Williamson, R.J. Barrett, Alex O'Connell. It's the big three, and Paul Pierce told them they could beat the Cavs, and they could. Dukes, yeah.

While never tested, the consensus among experts is that even the worst NBA team would dominate any college team due to depth and age.
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#PMT-2018-1107-6197
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jamal Murray will never score 50 points again after his disrespectful three-point attempt

The basketball gods are frowning on Jamal Murray... And now the basketball gods are thundering down upon Jamal Murray. He's not going to score 50 points ever this year because he tried that Mickey Mouse stunt.

Jamal Murray did not score 50 points again in the 2018-19 season. His next 50-point game didn't come until the 2020 NBA Bubble playoffs.
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#PMT-2018-1105-3032
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James' vote of confidence for Luke Walton is a kiss of death

LeBron getting coaches fired... So he gave Luke Walton a vote of confidence. So you know what that means... Suspect kiss of death. ... You know what that means when LeBron says, no, I like Luke Walton. Yeah, you're done.

Luke Walton was fired by the Lakers at the end of the 2018-2019 season.
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#PMT-2018-1105-3037
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Space Jam 2 is a fake movie used by LeBron to launder money to potential free agents

Couldnt you just offer [a superstar] a role in Space Jam 2 and through your production company pay him, I don't know, $30 million a year? Kevin Durant takes the veteran minimum on the books and... Now, I took it a step further than that because this movie has been delayed and delayed... I'm not sure that it's a real movie. ... He's got a fake movie. Follow the checks. Follow the money.

Space Jam: A New Legacy was a real movie released in 2021. There is no evidence of it being a salary cap evasion scheme.
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#PMT-2018-1031-8706
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James is suffering from alcohol withdrawal after drinking two bottles of wine

LeBron, this is a symptom of alcohol withdrawal... He had at least two bottles of wine, to himself, split maybe with a couple glasses to his three-year-old kid or whatever... that would put his blood alcohol content at above the legal limit... which means the next day he was going through symptoms of alcohol withdrawal, which is maybe why they lost.

A satirical claim intended to mock sports media analysis; LeBron's wine drinking is a known hobby but the 'withdrawal' claim is humorous speculation.
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#PMT-2018-1029-12738
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cleveland Cavaliers should hire J.R. Smith as a player-coach

I am in full support of player coach J.R. Smith. J.R. Smith, player coach. Get it trending. Do it. Petty War. NBA Twitter, you got this.

J.R. Smith was never hired as a player-coach; he was eventually exiled from the team and then joined the Lakers.
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Take Slip·Oct 26, 2018
#PMT-2018-1026-19311
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Jimmy Butler trade to the Rockets should cost at least seven first-round picks

I think it's got to be worth at least seven [first-round picks].

Butler was eventually traded to the Sixers for Robert Covington, Dario Saric, Jerryd Bayless and a 2022 second-round pick.
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Take Slip·Oct 26, 2018
#PMT-2018-1026-19312
HankHank

Chris Paul is the worst teammate in the NBA

Chris Paul, worst teammate in the league... It says all of his former teammates. Ryan Hollins and Glen Davis [say it].

Subjective opinion based on locker room reputation.
Void
#PMT-2018-1024-8619
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James moved to the Lakers to hide from his critics

Is LeBron James hiding from us? Because here's what happened. At like 12:30, I went to sleep. I missed all of the fourth quarter, missed the free throws... I think that LeBron James has moved out west because he knows... MJ people, we're getting a little older, got to get to sleep. The LeBron stans... they stay up all night... and LeBron knows he will not get criticized... Like, I should have been there hating LeBron when he missed those free throws. Except, father time has taken its hold on me, and I need to go to sleep.

Subjective meta-analysis of media consumption habits.
Void
#PMT-2018-1022-19943
HankHank

Boban Marjanovic is not of this world

My who's back is Boban... His clips of him playing are, I mean, I remember people talking about him last year, but this year it's like surreal. He's not of this world. It's like he's playing on a seven-foot hoop.

Hyperbolic but reflects Boban's historically high PER and physical uniqueness.
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Take Slip·Oct 19, 2018·Hmm
#PMT-2018-1019-2211
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant will sign with the Knicks to get his 'masculinity' back

This is going to be the greatest free agent summer of all time, because we basically have Kevin Durant being like, can an entire internet troll him into going to the Knicks just to try to get his made-up masculinity back... We will take away the Triple B [Baby Back Bitch] if he goes to the Knicks.

Durant did leave the Warriors, but he signed with the Brooklyn Nets instead of the Knicks.
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#PMT-2018-1019-2212
Big CatBig Cat

The G-League's $125k offer is a major threat to the NCAA

The G-League has come out and they have said that they are giving a $125,000 contract to players that could be eligible for the one and done and they want to skip college... This is trouble for the NCAA.

The G-League Ignite and other professional paths (Overtime Elite, NIL) eventually revolutionized college basketball and drastically changed the one-and-done landscape.
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#PMT-2018-1017-8408
Big CatBig Cat

The Bucks will win over 48.5 games and win the Central Division

I have the Bucks over 48 and a half. I think the Bucks are going to be very good. I think they'll win the Central. I think Giannis is going to – do you see he shoots threes now?

The Bucks finished the 2018-19 season with 60 wins and won the Central Division.
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#PMT-2018-1017-8409
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James and the Lakers will win 50 games this season

I have the Lakers over 47 and a half... LeBron's going to win 50 games. I just think there's no way. I think Brandon Ingram is very, very good.

The 2018-19 Lakers finished with only 37 wins after LeBron suffered a groin injury on Christmas Day and the team chemistry imploded.
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#PMT-2018-1017-8410
HankHank

The 76ers will win under 53.5 games because Joel Embiid will get injured

I have the under 76ers, 53 and a half. That's just a pure hate bias. No way they all say healthy. Embiid's probably going to get injured for 75 games.

The 76ers finished with 51 wins, hitting the under of 53.5.
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#PMT-2018-1017-8411
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Wizards will go over their win total because John Wall, Bradley Beal, and Dwight Howard will have great chemistry

I'm also going to take the over on the Wizards. I think that Wall and Beal and Dwight Howard are going to have great chemistry. They're big three.

The Wizards imploded, winning only 32 games, and Dwight Howard only played 9 games for them.
Void
#PMT-2018-1012-7988
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jimmy Butler's practice takeover in Minnesota was a Jordan-esque move

Jimmy Butler wants to be traded... Jimmy shows up to practice for the first time and basically emasculates the entire organization. He takes the bench players, the third stringers, and beats the first team... I'm a Jimmy Butler skeptic through and through. I'm skeptical of his top 20-ness. But this was a Jordan move.

Subjective comparison to Michael Jordan's legendary intensity.
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#PMT-2018-1012-7989
Big CatBig Cat

Jimmy Butler is officially 100% a dickhead and a diva

Let's just, because we're kind of all on Jimmy Butler's side, let's just say Jimmy Butler's for sure a dickhead. Like 100%. Yes, he's 100% a dickhead, a diva... it's clear that he's really feeling himself these days.

Subjective opinion on a player's personality.
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Take Slip·Oct 10, 2018·Null
#PMT-2018-1010-12214
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James should go to jail for giving his kids wine

Hot take, LeBron James should definitely go to jail, and this is the worst parenting move of all time, and I cannot believe that he is poisoning his children. I'm disgusted. I deleted my screensaver of LeBron James in a Lakers uniform, and I'll probably never watch NBA again.

This is a comedic performance; LeBron did not go to jail, nor should he have for a supervised sip of wine.
Void
#PMT-2018-1003-1393
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I could convince Kyrie Irving that Australia doesn't exist in five minutes

I'm convinced that I could convince Kyrie Irving that Australia didn't exist if you gave me five to seven minutes in a room with him.

Theoretically impossible to verify, but fits Kyrie's public persona at the time.
Void
#PMT-2018-1003-1399
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Matt Barnes is the one who looks bad in the Kobe flinch video

I was questioning Matt Barnes' toughness because I thought Matt Barnes was cool enough to like put the ball directly in Kobe's face. It turns out he was he was the one being a pussy. Why are we shaming Kobe Bryant for not flinching at a ball that was not thrown at his face? So this is actually a Matt Barnes problem. Matt Barnes is not man enough.

Opinion on a famous viral sports moment.
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Take Slip·Sep 28, 2018
#PMT-2018-0928-18100
Big CatBig Cat

Jimmy Butler will be traded to the Phoenix Suns

Breaking case of emergency, Jimmy Butler trade. He just got traded to the Suns... Devin Booker, DeAndre Ayton, Jimmy Butler.

Jimmy Butler was traded to the Philadelphia 76ers on November 12, 2018.
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Take Slip·Sep 26, 2018
#PMT-2018-0926-3426
Gordon HaywardGordon Hayward

Injured players secretly hope their team loses so their importance is validated

I don't think you'd be human if there wasn't a part of you that was like, I hope that we lose... it's the competitive nature in you. I know you're obviously rooting for your teammates. You want them to win, but there's a part of you that always wants to be part of the winning team.

This is a subjective psychological insight, but widely recognized as a 'real' sentiment in competitive sports.
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Take Slip·Sep 26, 2018
#PMT-2018-0926-3427
Gordon HaywardGordon Hayward

Brad Stevens is the best X's and O's coach I have ever seen

From an X's and O's standpoint, he's one of the best, if not the best I've ever seen. It's like when you watch... the Celtics games, or if you have watched old Butler games, like after timeout plays, we're getting the bucket every time.

Stevens was widely regarded as a top tactical coach during this era, though he eventually transitioned to the front office.
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#PMT-2018-0926-3432
Big CatBig Cat

A Jimmy Butler trade to the Heat would make them a top-four seed in the East

Jimmy Butler with the Heat, do they compete in the East? Yeah. I'd say that they're probably... Three or four seed? I'm going to go with probably the Raptors, the Celtics, the Heat.

The Heat with Butler eventually reached the NBA Finals (2020), though they were the 5th seed that year. In subsequent years, they hit the top four.
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#PMT-2018-0924-8946
Big CatBig Cat

Shaq and Dwight Howard are more alike than people realize

Shaq and Dwight Howard are more alike than people realize... Shaq is kind of a fucking loser like that too, where he can joke... but if you come at him, he's kind of a baby about it.

Both players are notoriously sensitive to criticism and jokes at their expense, supporting the take's premise.
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Take Slip·Sep 21, 2018
#PMT-2018-0921-17582
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You cannot win a championship with Jimmy Butler as your number one guy

I would not want to pay [Jimmy Butler] a max deal right now. I don't think that you can win a championship with Jimmy Butler as your one or one a guy.

Butler reached the 2020 and 2023 NBA Finals as the primary star but has not won a championship as of 2024.
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Take Slip·Sep 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-0905-12052
Rob LoweRob Lowe

LeBron James carries the ball on every single possession

I love LeBron, but we used to call carries. He carries on every possession. Every possession. He palms and also he's got that hand out [stiff arm]. So he's allowed to hand check.

While technical 'carries' are rarely called in the modern NBA, it is a subjective complaint about officiating trends.
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Take Slip·Sep 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-0905-12050
Rob LoweRob Lowe

The Kobe/Shaq Lakers three-peat team would destroy the Steph Curry Warriors

I think that the Kobe/Shaq three-peat team would destroy Steph Curry's team. Because who would guard Shaq? Look, if they're going to bomb from outside and beat you, they will beat you, and that's it. But they're not coming inside, so just let them do it. Live and die by the three.

This is an unresolvable sports debate between teams from different eras.
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#PMT-2018-0904-18271
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

DC Sports is back following Elena Delle Donne's performance and the Nationals' .500 record

My Who's Back of the Week is DC Sports. DC Sports is back. The Nats are 69-69. ... And the Mystics are still in the playoffs. Elena Delle Donne... basically broke her leg in half. ... But she came back, put the team on her goddamn back.

The Mystics made the Finals in 2018 (losing) but won the title in 2019. The Nationals won the World Series in 2019. PFT was actually ahead of the curve.
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Take Slip·Aug 22, 2018
#PMT-2018-0822-18983
JJ RedickJJ Redick

I am a better athlete now at 34 than I was at 22

I think just to the naked eye, it's not visible that I'm a better athlete, but I am a better athlete, even at my age than I was at 22. ... at 34, like, I feel like I move as well or better than I did at 27. I just can't leap like I used to.

Personal assessment of physical capability; Redick was indeed highly productive in his mid-30s.
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Take Slip·Aug 22, 2018
#PMT-2018-0822-18986
JJ RedickJJ Redick

Kevin Durant joining the Warriors was a great decision for player autonomy

I like seeing a player ultimately do what he wants to do, what's going to make him happy, even if he pisses a bunch of people off. ... to just take a pay cut to take a pay cut makes zero sense. And no one in any other industry does that.

Subjective opinion on athlete business decisions.
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Take Slip·Aug 22, 2018
#PMT-2018-0822-18987
JJ RedickJJ Redick

Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons will be first-team All-NBA players in five years

In five years when I'm done playing, those guys are first team, all NBA players, you know? ... Joe, as good as he is and Ben is as good as he is, are still going to be so much better.

Embiid became an MVP and perennial 1st-team candidate. Simmons made 3rd-team once (2020) but never 1st-team.
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#PMT-2018-0815-2239
Big CatBig Cat

Dwight Howard's plan to evolve into Kevin Durant and take jumpers will be a disaster

First one is the entire NBA because Dwight Howard, his trainer, has said that Dwight Howard wants to evolve into Anthony Davis, into Kevin Durant, but his own version of that... So Dwight Howard is going to start taking jumpers, which is going to be hilarious. It's going to be fun watching him try to shoot and take shots from John Wall and Bradley Beal.

Dwight Howard never became a perimeter threat or a 'KD version' of himself. His stint with the Wizards was injury-plagued and short-lived.
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Take Slip·Aug 10, 2018
#PMT-2018-0810-2182
Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

LeBron James will win exactly one more NBA championship in his career

I'll go under [1.5]. I think he has one more. But usually these guys, this means they're done. Remember the Kobe stuff? We're like, oh, nobody wants him more than Kobe. You want it all you want. This is over.

LeBron James won exactly one more championship (2020) after this take was made. As of late 2024, he has not won another.
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Take Slip·Aug 10, 2018
#PMT-2018-0810-2183
Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

Kawhi Leonard might stay in Toronto long-term because he'll realize how great the city is

Kawhi could be sitting here going, I'm not staying in Toronto. And then you're there. Toronto's awesome. Currency. Exactly.

Kawhi Leonard left Toronto for the Los Angeles Clippers immediately after winning the 2019 championship.
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#PMT-2018-0806-2122
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is objectively very smart

I would say LeBron James is not dumb. I'd actually say he's very, very smart, objectively very, very smart... look at all his businesses and all that and how he's handled his entire career. He's a very smart person.

LeBron's off-court success and career longevity are widely cited as evidence of high IQ in sports and business.
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Take Slip·Aug 3, 2018
#PMT-2018-0803-9479
Nate RobinsonNate Robinson

I'm never going to retire from the NBA

I'm not retired, man. I'm never going to retire from the NBA. Just leave that there.

Nate Robinson never played in the NBA again after his 2015 stint with the Pelicans, effectively being retired despite his stance.
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Take Slip·Aug 3, 2018
#PMT-2018-0803-9478
Nate RobinsonNate Robinson

I consider myself one of the greatest bench players in basketball history

I just knew that, all right, Nate, you're never going to be able to start. You're not going to be a starting point guard in this league, but we're going to make the best of it, and you're going to be one of the best players that ever come off the bench. And I think I did that, and I consider myself one of the greatest players that ever come off the bench to play the game of basketball.

While subjective, Robinson is a 3-time Dunk Contest winner and had multiple legendary playoff performances as a reserve, making him a top-tier bench icon.
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Take Slip·Aug 1, 2018
#PMT-2018-0801-18392
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James will never speak to Tristan Thompson again following the Draymond Green club fight.

LeBron then left the club right after because he was sick of the shit. And that leads me to the question, do you think LeBron James will ever speak to Tristan Thompson again in his life? He's a fake friend. You don't leave your friend behind like that. He's never going to converse with him again. That was it.

While it was a tense moment, they played together on the Lakers years later and remained on good terms publicly.
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Take Slip·Jul 30, 2018
#PMT-2018-0730-19786
Nick WrightNick Wright

Kevin Durant's social media sensitivity shows he is not at peace with his move to the Warriors

If people bring up him [Kevin Durant] going to the Warriors, he clearly is not at peace with that decision, even though it has worked out better than even he could have expected... It is because you're Kevin Durant, you're not supposed to respond to trolls in your mentions.

KD has continued to be highly active and sensitive to critics on social media for years, supporting the idea of a lack of peace with his narrative.
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Take Slip·Jul 30, 2018
#PMT-2018-0730-19787
Nick WrightNick Wright

Losing the 2011 Finals to the Mavericks was ultimately good for LeBron James's legacy

The best thing that happened to LeBron, even though the way they lost was not great, the best thing that happened to LeBron was that Miami team losing to Dallas. Because it validated those other two titles. It made it seem hard... The fact that they had real adversity made the rest of the championships feel validated to the public.

This is a matter of historical narrative framing.
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Take Slip·Jul 30, 2018
#PMT-2018-0730-19788
Nick WrightNick Wright

LeBron James is objectively the greatest basketball player ever

Wouldn't change the fact that he's [LeBron James] objectively and obviously the greatest basketball player ever.

The GOAT debate is inherently subjective.
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Take Slip·Jul 30, 2018
#PMT-2018-0730-19789
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James intentionally put together a 'blame team' of flawed teammates for his first year in LA

LeBron James, the 2018-19 Los Angeles Lakers, he has put together the greatest blame team of all time. He's basically punted on this year... They have Rondo, JaVale McGee, Lance Stevenson, Michael Beasley. That team will get blamed and laughed at on Twitter every single night, and LeBron James will basically be like, well, what is he supposed to do?

The 2018-19 Lakers did fail spectacularly and the 'meme team' teammates took much of the heat, fitting Big Cat's narrative.
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Take Slip·Jul 30, 2018
#PMT-2018-0730-19790
Nick WrightNick Wright

The 2018-19 Lakers will be a 4 or 5 seed in the Western Conference

The Lakers shouldn't be very good this year, right? Yeah, I think probably like the four or five seed. Yeah, they'll finish somewhere around there.

The Lakers finished 37-45, 10th in the West, and missed the playoffs entirely.
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Take Slip·Jul 27, 2018
#PMT-2018-0727-15174
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant is thin-skinned but owning up to it makes him relatable

[Durant] can be a thin-skinned B-word, and he also can be very real and actually kind of owning up to the fact that he's a thin-skinned B-word, which I do respect. It makes him so much more relatable. The fact that he deals with the same problems that we deal with.

Relatability is subjective, but Durant's public persona as someone who argues with fans and peers online became a hallmark of his late-2010s career.
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#PMT-2018-0725-9924
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Lakers have 14 players other than LeBron James who know how to play basketball

the narrative that LeBron James doesn't have any good teammates... super cool Michael Beasley said... you got 14 guys other than LeBron James that know how to play basketball. Also fact.

Technically true as they are on an NBA roster, but the implication of their quality is the debatable part.
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#PMT-2018-0725-9931
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Love has the perfect career because he has a ring and now has zero pressure playing for the Cavs

I feel like Kevin Love has finally reached happiness... now he gets to just be on the Cavs and hang out and not make the playoffs and shoot the ball a lot... make a lot of money. Hang out. Put up stats. Live a good life. I kind of love it.

Kevin Love remained with the Cavs for several more years, earned massive money, and eventually won another title elsewhere as a bench player.
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#PMT-2018-0725-9930
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cleveland Cavaliers will make the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed this year without LeBron James

I think the Cavs are going to make the playoffs. That's my hot take. I think they're going to be like a 7 or an 8 seed.

The 2018-19 Cavaliers finished 19-63 and missed the playoffs by a wide margin.
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#PMT-2018-0725-9932
Big CatBig Cat

Dwight Howard is the ultimate locker room cancer because he ruins every team he joins

dwight howard is my number one in like the world to me he is everywhere he goes he is terrible... he's been with all those teams. He's ruined all of those teams. I honestly think if you put him on your team, you're just basically... trying to destroy your team from within.

Howard's reputation at the time was at an all-time low, though he later salvaged it with a championship role on the 2020 Lakers.
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