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Take Slip·Jan 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0106-1752
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Houston Texans are better off without J.J. Watt

I want their team to go so far in the playoffs that are the Houston Texans better without J.J. Watt takes start to heat up. Because if they win, I'll say if they win two playoff games. Yeah, if they win two playoff games, you're going to get those takes, and I'm here for those.

The Texans won one playoff game but lost to the Patriots in the Divisional Round. The 'better without J.J.' takes never truly materialized as a mainstream consensus.
Push
Take Slip·Jan 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0106-1743
Big CatBig Cat

The Green Bay Packers are not built for cold weather at Lambeau Field

You know what my favorite take is? The Packers aren't built for Lambeau. They're playing in the wrong stadium. This is a new look. Yeah, they almost wish they were somewhere else. They wish they didn't have a home game.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
The Packers lost at home in the cold several times during this era (e.g., to the 49ers in 2013), but generally remain strong at Lambeau. In 2016, they actually beat the Giants in the Wild Card round at home.
Void
Take Slip·Jan 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0106-1744
Mark TitusMark Titus

Grayson Allen's tripping incidents are victimless pranks that don't actually matter

The thing about Grayson Allen that I absolutely love is that all of this is victimless and it doesn't actually matter. The stakes are non-existent in this story. And we pretend like they are because we just love to hate Duke so much. But he's sticking his foot out and tripping guys and they kind of just trip over and they look up like, what the fuck was that? And then they move on. And it's not like he's putting anyone's life in jeopardy.

The 'victimless' nature of the acts is an opinion, though the outrage was certainly real and led to an 'indefinite' suspension.
Void
Take Slip·Jan 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0106-1745
Mark TitusMark Titus

Coach K's leave of absence was a PR move to shield Grayson Allen from the headlines

My theory is that the Coach K leave of absence is one to take headlines away from Grayson. Because that's all he was talking about. And K said, if I step away—and by the way, both of these things are happening right after they get smoked at Virginia Tech. That's not a coincidence either.

While speculative, Coach K's leave did significantly shift the narrative from Allen's character to K's health and the team's future.
Win
Take Slip·Jan 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0106-1750
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Boston sports fans would love Gordon Hayward because he is a white player

A lot of stuff in the news about Gordon Hayward and Boston fans booing Jae Crowder, cheering for Hayward. Then Bomani Jones got on the air and said that Boston fans would absolutely love Gordon Hayward, which I think they would. I don't think that's out of bounds.

OpinionBasketballHotSarcastic
Gordon Hayward did sign with the Celtics in 2017 and was initially greeted with massive fanfare, though injuries hampered his tenure.
Loss
Take Slip·Jan 4, 2017
#PMT-2017-0104-6515
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tom Brady is a system quarterback because Jimmy Garoppolo played well in his absence

Well, [Brady] is also a system quarterback because Jimmy Garoppolo played pretty well. So, yeah. You can't give it to a system quarterback.

While Brady obviously flourished in Belichick's system, 'system quarterback' is a pejorative that the sports world generally rejects for Brady.
Push
#PMT-2017-0104-6519
Big CatBig Cat

Sam Bradford had the best season for a quarterback in NFL history

Sam Bradford... he won the completion percentage, the greatest completion percentage in NFL history. Had a pretty damn good year... Sam Bradford, best quarterback in NFL history, best season.

Fact ClaimFootballHotSarcastic
Bradford did set the record for completion percentage (71.6%) in 2016, but he is objectively not the best QB in history, and the Vikings missed the playoffs.
Void
Take Slip·Jan 4, 2017
#PMT-2017-0104-6520
Michael RapaportMichael Rapaport

You cannot be a serious basketball analyst if you never played the game

I just want to ask these fucking nerds. Like, did you ever play? ... If you are a basketball dude and you never played basketball, even in your heart of hearts, and you took it seriously, it's hard for me to take you seriously. Because anybody could play basketball, really, until any age.

This is a subjective gatekeeping opinion common in sports media.
Loss
#PMT-2017-0104-6524
HankHank

Planes should have giant parachutes to prevent crash landings

I was watching the movie Sully... and I was just wondering, why don't planes just build parachutes so if that happens they can just parachute down and not have to worry about crash landing? Like inside the plane so it's like oh shit the engine's failed, pop parachute, safe.

While small private planes (Cirrus) have whole-plane parachutes, the physics of weight, speed, and drag make this unfeasible for commercial airliners like the A320 in Sully.
Loss
#PMT-2017-0103-7504
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Chip Kelly will be the offensive coordinator for LSU

I'm just going to put this out here. Chip Kelly to LSU. Offense coordinator? I'm just saying, Chip Kelly to LSU, even though him and Coach O, they don't speak the same language.

Chip Kelly did not go to LSU; Matt Canada was hired as OC, and Kelly later became the UCLA head coach.
Void
Take Slip·Jan 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0103-7505
Lawrence TynesLawrence Tynes

The 2016 Giants defense might be better than the two Super Bowl winning defenses

I will say that the [2016] defense might be a little bit better than our two Super Bowl defenses.

Statistically, the 2016 defense was elite (2nd in scoring defense), but the '07 and '11 units have Super Bowl rings, making it a subjective debate.
Void
Take Slip·Jan 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0103-7507
Lawrence TynesLawrence Tynes

College kickers who wear towels on their hips are soft

You know another thing that pisses me off is when you watch these college guys and they have shields and sweet towel. They have a towel hanging off their hip like they're about to go take a center snap. You're a fucking kicker. Like kick the ball. No one cares what you look like.

Subjective opinion on fashion and toughness.
Loss
Take Slip·Jan 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0103-7508
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Coach K isn't actually hurt because you coach with your spine, not your back

Hurt or injured, Coach K? I'd say neither. You don't coach with your back. You coach with your spine. And I know that sounds counterintuitive. It's like you coach with your spine, bro.

Hot TakeCBBHotSarcastic
Nonsensical medical claim delivered for comedic effect.
Loss
Take Slip·Jan 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0103-7509
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Gary Kubiak needs to stay around football or his health will decline immediately

Kubiak strikes me as a guy that could pull a Joe Pop... like the second you step away from the game, a football guy needs to be around football or else his health goes downhill. It's counterintuitive for Kubiak, but I think the more he coaches, the more healthy he's going to be.

Kubiak lived long after retirement and even returned to coaching in various capacities, so the 'sudden death' theory didn't apply.
Win
Take Slip·Dec 28, 2016
#PMT-2016-1228-1974
Kyle WiltjerKyle Wiltjer

Adam Morrison has an apocalypse bunker and is fully equipped for the end of the world

The guy is fully equipped if there was an apocalypse. He's got food stashed in the way, everything. So he could survive anything. He's got guns, everything. He's got a bunker, everything. He's a pro. I don't think I can compare myself to him because I know all that stuff.

Morrison later confirmed he has food storage and guns but joked about the extent of the 'bunker'.
Void
Take Slip·Dec 28, 2016
#PMT-2016-1228-1982
Marlins ManMarlins Man

I am ground zero for sports celebrity for non-athletes

He [SI Reporter] said, you're the first sports star. I mean, what the hell is a sports star? Star for sports. You're the first guy to become a sports celebrity that wasn't an athlete. And it's really good. You pay it forward. You're really nice to everybody. You take strangers with you. And we have nothing to compare you to. You are ground zero for sports stars.

He is certainly a unique figure, though 'ground zero' is hyperbolic.
Loss
Take Slip·Dec 28, 2016
#PMT-2016-1228-1988
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Giants will beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl again this year

We also correctly predicted, I think, that they're [the Giants] going to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl again this year. Oh. So pat ourselves on the back for that.

The Giants lost to the Packers in the Wild Card round. The Patriots won Super Bowl LI against the Falcons.
Win
Take Slip·Dec 23, 2016
#PMT-2016-1223-15735
Ric FlairRic Flair

Steve Smith wouldn't even dare to get in a wrestling ring

Steve Smith wouldn't even get in the ring... But he wouldn't. We can put that challenge out right now to him.

Steve Smith never entered a professional wrestling ring for a match, though he is known for his toughness.
Push
Take Slip·Dec 23, 2016
#PMT-2016-1223-15742
Ric FlairRic Flair

Wrestling is definitively real

Is wrestling real? Yes. Great answer. Most definitely. And anybody that doesn't think it is should come down for a workout one day.

While the outcomes are predetermined (scripted), the physical impact and athleticism are real. Flair is using the traditional wrestler defense here.
Loss
Take Slip·Dec 21, 2016
#PMT-2016-1221-17522
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Christian McCaffrey lacks the genetic benefits and pedigree of Leonard Fournette

When you look at Christian McCaffrey, this is a guy that's had to scrap and work and motor and study and think his way to everything that he is today. And then you look at Leonard Fournette, and he's got all the great genetics in the world, whereas a guy like Christian McCaffrey doesn't have that benefit, doesn't have the pedigree.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
Factually, McCaffrey has elite NFL pedigree. The take is satirizing how white and black athletes are scouted differently.
Loss
#PMT-2016-1221-17529
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Rams should consider rehiring Jeff Fisher for consistency

I think what you need in L.A., and this might go contrary to popular opinion, you need somebody with a steady hand, somebody that's done this type of thing before, someone that's saved the course, consistency, a Jeff Fisher type, for example. So maybe we can get that rumor going, that the Rams are... They're willing to take Jeff back.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
The Rams never rehired Fisher and immediately became Super Bowl contenders with McVay.
Loss
Take Slip·Dec 16, 2016
#PMT-2016-1216-8429
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NCAA is struggling so much that they cannot even afford to pay their labor costs

If you paid attention last week, they announced that I think four bowl games this year didn't have a sponsor. So thoughts and prayers to the NCAA. I don't know how they're going to make any money with all their labor costs being what they are.

Hot TakeCFBHotSarcastic
The NCAA famously does not pay players directly (at this time in 2016), making the 'labor costs' claim literally false but satirically sharp.
Loss
Take Slip·Dec 16, 2016
#PMT-2016-1216-8432
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James sat out against Memphis just to distract people from his Photoshop hair fail

I actually think he did this purposely to get the story about him missing this game so people would stop talking about his Sportsman of the Year award where they forgot to Photoshop his hair back on.

While LeBron did have a controversial SI cover that year, there is no evidence he skipped a game specifically to distract from it.
Void
Take Slip·Dec 16, 2016
#PMT-2016-1216-8437
Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

Grown men over the age of 30 should stop using the word dude

When did the word dude become part of the speech. I don't like that... I really don't mind when someone, a teenager or early 20s, uses it. But when you get older, the thing I hate the most is someone my age using it.

Purely a subjective matter of personal taste/etiquette.
Void
#PMT-2016-1216-8439
Big CatBig Cat

Tiger Woods switched to Bridgestone golf balls so he can blame the equipment for his poor play

I like the choice by Tiger because you go off brand, you can always blame the balls... I thought these balls had the spin and distance and torque that I needed for my game. I was wrong. That's why I broke my back again and it had nothing to do with the steroids.

Satirical analysis of a brand deal, impossible to prove intent.
Win
Take Slip·Dec 14, 2016
#PMT-2016-1214-2690
Mike PereiraMike Pereira

If a dildo hit a receiver and caused a fumble, the down would likely be replayed

I mean, if the official feels like that something, you know, that's not connected with the game has an effect on the play, then he can order the play replayed. Much like they're talking about in the Raider Kansas City, they're saying that that long pass may have hit the NBC guide wires of the overhead camera. And if it does, there's actually a rule that covers that that says you just do it over again.

NFL rules allow for a replay of the down if the ball hits an external object (like a wire) or if there's significant fan interference that affects the play.
Void
Take Slip·Dec 14, 2016
#PMT-2016-1214-2698
Psychic LauraPsychic Laura

Jeff Fisher would have broken the all-time loss record if he hadn't been fired

[Speaking of the all-time loss record] Absolutely. He was [going to get it].

Void
#PMT-2016-1214-2707
Big CatBig Cat

The subway should have a 'fart car' with a discounted monthly pass

There should be a discounted train pass for a fart car. But would you not pay like 50% less a month on your train pass if – but you can only ride in the fart car?

Loss
Take Slip·Dec 12, 2016
#PMT-2016-1212-2658
Kyle LongKyle Long

Matt Barkley is the real deal as an NFL quarterback

Matt Barkley, real deal. Matt Barkley and Daniel Braverman, ladies and gentlemen. Write it down.

Barkley struggled as a starter for the Bears (8 TDs, 14 INTs in 2016) and spent the rest of his career as a journeyman backup.
Loss
#PMT-2016-1212-2659
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ryan Tannehill's ACL injury is a good thing for his job security

I'm going to go with actually this is a good thing for him because that means that Tannehill gets another year. You can't judge him at the end of next year because it takes two years to come back from an ACL.

Tannehill didn't 'get another year' of judgment-free play; he missed 2017 entirely and the Dolphins eventually moved on.
Loss
#PMT-2016-1212-2661
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tim Duncan's massive back tattoo is a viral marketing stunt

To me, this screams viral marketing stunt... I would expect him to get such a lame back tattoo. But this is what happens when people retire from things. They end up falling into the first viral trap that their PR person brings in... We're going to get a big back tattoo that's fake. And then a week from now, you'll come out and be like... my tattoo artist has my back. You know who's got your back? It's Fidelity.

The tattoo was real and Duncan has shown it off since; it was not a viral marketing stunt for a financial firm.
Win
Take Slip·Dec 9, 2016
#PMT-2016-1209-1336
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Derek Carr is a cold-weather choker

Derek Carr, not [a cold-weather quarterback]. No, in fact, he's a cold-weather choker. He played, what, at Fresno State? Cali boy. Soft. Can't trust the soft Cali boys.

Carr has historically struggled in games under 40 degrees, often posting significantly worse stats compared to his career averages, validating the 'cold weather' criticism for much of his Raiders tenure.
Void
Take Slip·Dec 9, 2016
#PMT-2016-1209-1339
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL should trade coaches between the best and worst teams every year

I'd like to see at the end of every season the worst team trade coaches with the best team and see what happens the next year. Just a quick quirky little rule change.

This is a satirical rule proposal.
Void
#PMT-2016-1209-1341
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Heisman winners should be eligible for the NFL Draft regardless of age

Whoever wins the Heisman should be eligible for the draft no matter what. If they're a freshman, it's your golden ticket.

The NFL eligibility rules remained unchanged.
Void
#PMT-2016-1209-1342
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James makes every viral trend lame and manufactured

I just realized that this is – LeBron is Disney. He's like, if there's a meme on the internet, he's going to do it in the most Disney lame move ever. You know, like the mannequin challenge. Oh, they did the mannequin challenge at the White House. He just makes everything so fucking lame.

This is a subjective opinion on athlete branding and cultural perception.
Loss
#PMT-2016-1209-1343
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

RG3 will dislocate his pelvis on Sunday

I'm going to go injured. I think he dislocates the pelvis. It's the big one. It's like the San Andreas quake. A lot of tremors the last few years.

RG3 did not dislocate his pelvis on that Sunday; he finished the game against the Bengals.
Void
#PMT-2016-1209-1348
Big CatBig Cat

Philadelphia fans have lost their edge and gotten soft

I feel like Philly's lost its edge recently. Philly has definitely lost its edge. Yeah, Philly, you guys haven't booed anyone who's hurt their spine recently? Philly's been eating shit and you guys haven't been doing anything... I think Philly's gotten soft. Lost its edge.

This is a subjective assessment of a fanbase's 'vibe.'
Push
#PMT-2016-1209-1349
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jeff Bezos is using Alexa to listen to every conversation in your house

Stay woke on this. Jeff Bezos just told everybody that he's listening to every conversation that you have in your house and keeping track of it.

Reports later emerged that Amazon employees did listen to voice recordings to improve the AI, though the 'listening to every conversation' framing is an exaggeration.
Loss
Take Slip·Dec 7, 2016
#PMT-2016-1207-19626
Chael SonnenChael Sonnen

Boxing is a sport that almost nobody actually participates in

Mayweather's very good at what he does, but he is in a sport that nobody participates in. ... I never met a man that boxed. I could go a step further. I don't know where a boxing gym is. ... I couldn't tell you where to go to buy boxing gloves. And now that I just said it, you guys and all your listeners are going, yeah, he's right. Nobody boxes.

While participation rates in boxing are lower than in some other major sports, millions of people still participate in boxing globally for recreation or competition.
Win
Take Slip·Dec 5, 2016
#PMT-2016-1205-9972
Dave WannstedtDave Wannstedt

Neither Penn State nor Wisconsin will make the College Football Playoff

No, neither team is going to get in [to the Final Four]. And the committee, let me tell you how this works... they wouldn't have put Michigan at number five if they really were anticipating putting the winner of this game in.

Correct. Penn State won the Big Ten but was ranked #5, missing the playoff. Wisconsin also missed.
Void
#PMT-2016-1205-9979
Big CatBig Cat

Ezekiel Elliott's 'feed me' celebration is problematic because of world hunger

This celebration is kind of problematic. A lot of people out there don't have food. They're hungry. They don't have soup. They don't have cereal. Ezekiel Elliott's just out there wasting it. He's basically saying, look how rich I am. I can eat.

This is a satirical moral judgment, not a verifiable fact.
Loss
Take Slip·Dec 2, 2016
#PMT-2016-1202-1266
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The MLB ban on chewing tobacco is an infringement on a player's right to get cancer

I think it's offensive to me. You should have the right to get cancer if you want it. And you're stealing that right from baseball players.

Hot TakeBaseballHotSarcastic
The health benefits of the ban are scientifically established, making the literal claim incorrect, though it's clearly a joke.
Void
#PMT-2016-1202-1269
Big CatBig Cat

Rob Gronkowski is the best player in the NFL

I honestly think he's the best player in the NFL.

Gronk's peak dominance makes this a valid but highly debated opinion in the 2016 landscape.
Void
Take Slip·Nov 30, 2016
#PMT-2016-1130-3524
Big CatBig Cat

Al Horford should not have missed a game for the birth of his child because basketball is forever

Al Horford skipped a game to be with his wife who is having a kid. But come on, man. They could have lost. It's a kid. Kids come and go. Basketball is forever.

This is a subjective value judgment delivered as satire.
Void
#PMT-2016-1130-3530
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Voters are more likely to support political change when their local NFL team is losing

When your football team is good, you're more likely to vote for an incumbent. And when your football team's bad, you're more likely to vote for a new guy. The Jaguars and Dolphins sucked up until Election Day. Wisconsin voted Trump. Steelers sucked at the start of the year, Pennsylvania voted Trump. Carolina Panthers suck, North Carolina voted for Trump too.

The states mentioned did indeed flip or vote for Trump, and those teams were struggling at the time of the election. Whether there is a causal link is unprovable.
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#PMT-2016-1130-3531
Big CatBig Cat

It is completely unfair to judge Jeff Fisher on his losing record

LA Rams COO Kevin Demoff said it's unfair to judge head coach Jeff Fisher on record. Kings stay Kings. Everybody will want to judge Jeff through the prism of just the record, but that's totally unfair when you look at the set of circumstances he was handed this year.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
Fisher was fired less than a month after this episode with a 4-9 record that season. Judging a coach by their record is standard.
Loss
Take Slip·Nov 28, 2016
#PMT-2016-1128-8215
Danny KanellDanny Kanell

Ohio State is not a lock for the College Football Playoff if Penn State wins the Big Ten

If Penn State beats Wisconsin... I think you're looking at either two Big Ten teams in or you're looking at Penn State in and Ohio State out. Now, that's very, like, no one agrees with me on this... Kirk Herbstreit, those guys are saying, no, they're saying, you know, Ohio State's a lock... And I don't know how they can comfortably say that.

The committee ultimately chose Ohio State (the non-champion) over Penn State (the Big Ten champion) for the 4th seed.
Loss
#PMT-2016-1128-8222
Big CatBig Cat

The 2016 Big Ten Championship game is rigged for Wisconsin to win

The Big Ten titles game is going to be rigged in favor of Wisconsin this time. Because last time, the 59-0 Ohio State. That was rigged. Wisconsin. Gary Anderson was fired recently. Left right away. It all makes sense.

Penn State won the 2016 Big Ten Championship game 38-31 over Wisconsin.
Win
#PMT-2016-1123-17897
Big CatBig Cat

The next Texas head coach is already on the hot seat

My hot seat, the next Texas coach. Just throw him on the hot seat right away. Because guess what? Texas winning culture. Haven't won in a while.

Charlie Strong was fired days later and Tom Herman was hired; Herman was eventually fired in 2020 after failing to meet high expectations, proving the perpetual 'hot seat' nature of the job.
Void
Take Slip·Nov 23, 2016·Hey Jj
#PMT-2016-1123-17902
Big CatBig Cat

J.J. Watt’s Players' Tribune article is basically erotic fan fiction he wrote about himself

One was wearing a 99 jersey with my name on the back, and another was wearing shoes with my logo on them... That was some fucking fan fiction erotic art shit for J.J. Watt. He hired a J.J. Watt mega fan to write that passage.

The article's content is factual in that Watt wrote it, but Big Cat's 'fan fiction' label is a subjective critique of the style.
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