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Barry Sanders, David Justice 06/27/2016

Monday, June 27, 201619 takes

The guys face the maximum amount of travel adversity to tape the show at 3 am and start with a story from Big Cat's weekend. Discussion then turns to whether or not Messi lacks the clutch gene or is just a descendant of Nazis. Barry Sanders and David Justice join the show to talk about their respective careers, why Barry doesn't smile, and how awkward is it for David and Halle Berry. Segments include "PR 101" for Johnny Manziel, "Not afraid to go there" featuring Tavaris Jackson's wife, "Hurt or Injured" for the European Union and our newest segment "Hey JJ".

Barry Sanders, David Justice, and Big Cat’s Barber Shop Incident

Big Cat opened the show with a level of vulnerability that most men wouldn't share with their own priest, let alone a global audience. While driving to a haircut on a Friday afternoon, a sneeze-fart-poop trifecta left him in a situation where he had to walk into the barber shop with spare sweatpants and leave his dignity (and his shorts) in the trash can.

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Jun 27, 2016
#2251
Big CatBig Cat

I am going to make pooping your pants as an adult socially acceptable

None of it comes even close to what I'm trying to accomplish when it comes to making pooping your pants as an adult not something to be ashamed of. I'm a 31-year-old man. I make mistakes just like you... If this happens to you, don't be ashamed. I'm here for you. I want to give a voice to the voiceless, the grown adults out there.

Whether pooping your pants is socially acceptable remains subjective, but it became a recurring joke in PMT lore.

The conversation shifted to Argentina’s devastating loss in the Copa América final. Lionel Messi’s decision to retire from international play sparked a massive debate about his legacy and his apparent inability to close out the big one. PFT had a few theories about why the greatest player in the world keeps coming up short on the biggest stage.

Loss
Jun 27, 2016
#2252
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Lionel Messi lacks the clutch gene and is likely a relative of Nazi Josef Mengele

I think that Messi might be a relative of a Nazi because a lot of them went to Argentina after the war to try to escape. Now, there was a doctor [Josef Mengele]... He was unable to uncover the clutch gene and isolate it. And that's why, you know, like Hitler, if he had had the clutch gene, he probably wouldn't have choked... Mingel moved to South America, had sex with an Argentinian. A few years later you get [Messi].

The timeline doesn't work out as Big Cat notes, and the biological claim is obviously false.

With Messi feeling the heat from his home country, Big Cat suggested a career move that has worked for other legends who were labeled as quitters. If you want to fix a reputation of choking, there is one city that currently offers the ultimate redemption arc.

Loss
Jun 27, 2016
#2253
Big CatBig Cat

Lionel Messi should go to Cleveland and win a championship to repair his legacy

When the whole world thinks you're a quitter and is down on you, you go to Cleveland and you win a championship.

Messi never played for a Cleveland-based team; he stayed in Europe before eventually joining Inter Miami in 2023.
Loss
Jun 27, 2016
#2254
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Under Armour signed Lionel Messi because they specialize in signing the biggest chokers in sports

Congratulations to Under Armour for apparently signing Lionel Messi to round out their stable of Spieth, Cam Newton, and Steph Curry, the biggest chokers in the world.

Hot TakeSoccerFireSarcastic
Messi never signed with Under Armour; he has a lifetime deal with Adidas. Also, calling those athletes chokers is a subjective hot take.

Barry Sanders and David Justice

Barry Sanders joined the show and proved he is still the humblest guy to ever play the game. Even with 34 NCAA records to his name, he wasn’t interested in bragging, though he did confirm that he hasn't lost all of his athleticism since retiring in 1998.

Open
Jun 27, 2016
#2258
Barry SandersBarry Sanders

I can probably still dunk on a 10-foot goal

[Can you still dunk?] You mean on a 10-foot goal? Yes. Probably not... Yeah, I mean, yeah I could. I could.

There is no video evidence of Barry Sanders dunking at this age, though he was an elite athlete.

David Justice also sat down to talk about his career across several massive baseball markets. He gave a lot of love to Cleveland for their fanaticism despite the weather, but he saved his highest praise for the legendary owner he played for in New York.

Void
Jun 27, 2016
#2261
David JusticeDavid Justice

George Steinbrenner was the greatest owner in sports history

Best owner ever. I had the utmost respect because I don't think I've ever seen an owner that wants to win as much as George Steinbrenner wanted to win. Like, literally, we played 162 games. I really think that he wanted us to win 162 games, like not one loss.

Ranking owners is a subjective matter of opinion.

Things got a little dicey when Big Cat followed PFT and Hank’s advice to bring up Halle Berry. The look on David Justice's face didn't quite translate to audio, but the awkwardness certainly did. Before that though, David shared his admiration for how Derek Jeter managed to navigate the New York media landscape without a single scratch on his reputation.

Win
Jun 27, 2016
#27185
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Derek Jeter did the best job of keeping his private life out of the tabloids while playing in New York

It's actually unbelievable when you think about it how long [Jeter] played in New York and there never was any story... Ain't nobody done it better than him.

Jeter is widely cited as the master of navigating New York media without scandal.

Not Afraid to Go There

The guys highlighted the incredible bravery (or lack of a filter) shown by Tarvaris Jackson’s wife. In a terrifying situation where a gun was pointed at her, she chose to deliver a scouting report that most defensive coordinators would be too scared to say to Jackson's face.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tarvaris Jackson's wife is a Hall of Famer for mocking his on-field accuracy while he was holding a gun

Jax and his wife said to him [while he pointed a gun at her], you better be accurate because you ain't accurate on the field. That's so quick... she actually is facing death and she's still not afraid to go there. Not afraid to go there Hall of Fame.

The story was widely reported at the time; her 'Hall of Fame' status in a comedy segment is subjective.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tarvaris Jackson was a D-grade draft pick for the Vikings

Can we retroactively go back and grade Brad Childress' draft when he selected Tarvaris in the second round? Because in light of yesterday's events, I'd like to change my grade to a D. I think Tarvaris was a D-grade draft.

Jackson had a journeyman career and the off-field incident certainly lowered his value in hindsight.

This led to a discussion about coaches who just don't look the part. Big Cat and PFT are offering a new service where NFL owners can send them a photo of a potential hire to see if they look like a guy who belongs in a locker room or a guy who belongs in a locker.

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Big CatBig Cat

Brad Childress and Joe Philbin don't look like real football coaches

Brad Childress is definitely in that camp where it's like that guy is not really a football coach, right? Mark Trestman is the same way. You look at him and you're like, come on, bad idea... Joe Philbin just because he's a classic case of looking like a loser.

Purely subjective 'eye test' and vibes-based coaching analysis.

Hurt or Injured: The EU

In a rare move outside the sports world, the guys analyzed the Brexit situation. While the UK is hitting the exit, PFT thinks the European Union is going to treat this like a bad breakup and come back stronger than ever.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The European Union is hurt, not injured, following Brexit and will make a major comeback

The EU, in my opinion, is hurt. I don't think that they're injured. This is a minor setback for a major comeback... The EU is going to get back on that horse. They're going to bring in like Turkey and Russia and really get Britain's attention and Britain will be like, yeah, we fucked up. I'm sorry. Can I have you back? Things will get back together.

The UK has not rejoined the EU, and the EU has not added Russia or Turkey as members since this take.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

America should join the EU as a senior prank by Barack Obama

This would be a boss move. If on his last day in office, Barack Obama just said, like, hey, guess what? USA, we just joined the EU... Spot opened up, we're in the EU.

Hot TakePoliticsHotSarcastic
This obviously did not happen and is legally/geographically impossible.

To wrap things up, the guys debuted "Hey JJ," a segment dedicated to finding the problematic side of everything JJ Watt does. After he ate a raw egg on Jimmy Fallon, the guys realized that the "hardest worker in the room" might actually be supporting some very dark industries.

Loss
Jun 27, 2016·Hey Jj
#2267
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

JJ Watt eating a raw egg on Jimmy Fallon is condoning mass murder and sweatshops

Each egg is actually like a chicken abortion. So like you're basically condoning mass murder when you eat that egg... eggs are produced in unsanitary hen houses. So they're basically sweatshops for chickens. So that's not cool.

Hot TakeLifeScorchingSarcastic
The claim that eating a raw egg is 'mass murder' is a satirical exaggeration and factually incorrect in a biological/legal sense.

Between the 3:00 AM recording time and PFT's voice sounding like he swallowed a gravel pit, this episode was a true test of grit for everyone involved.

Go follow the Twitter account so Big Cat has to post the shorts.

nflmlblionel-messibrexitjj-wattgame-of-thrones

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Loss
Jun 27, 2016
#27182
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Lionel Messi is afraid of killing everyone in Argentina because he chokes so much

Messi's afraid of killing everybody in Argentina because he chokes so much. So he's doing the right thing and dropping out. And I'd like to see players in the U.S. start to drop out for the right reasons instead of the wrong ones.

Hot TakeSoccerHotSarcastic
This is a satirical interpretation of Messi's motives for retiring (which he later reversed).
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dijon is the best mustard

Number one on my Mount Rushmore of mustards is Dijon mustard. Delicious on a sandwich. Can't get enough of a good Dijon.

Subjective food preference.
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Big CatBig Cat

Spicy brown mustard is the best kind of mustard

Spicy Brown? Yeah, that's actually my favorite mustard. That's my number one. That's my bottom bitch, if you will, of mustards.

Subjective food preference.
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Jun 27, 2016·Mt. Rushmore
#2256
HankHank

All mustard is trash

I have nothing on my Mount Rushmore because all mustard is trash.

Condiment preference is inherently a matter of personal opinion.
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Jun 27, 2016
#2260
David JusticeDavid Justice

Yankee fans are the most knowledgeable in baseball, but Cleveland and New York are tied for fanaticism

I think number one in terms of knowledge would be Yankee fans... I think I would give a tie in terms of just overall fanaticism between Cleveland and New York. The reason why I say Cleveland is because I played there basically four years, and we sold out every game. And Cleveland's weather is terrible... they're showing up.

Subjective player experience.
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Big CatBig Cat

Game of Thrones is for nerds and we watch sports instead

Game of Thrones for nerds. We watch sports. You watch your little fantasy land shit. If we're going to call you a nerd, we're going to call you a nerd and you're going to fucking like it... The real nerds are the people that don't watch it.

Categorizing fans as 'nerds' is a subjective social label.

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