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Win
Take Slip·Jun 7, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LIV Golf comes out of the merger looking like the Michael Scott Paper Company

The LIV tour, by the way, they come out of this smelling like roses. They're the Michael Scott Paper Company comparably to the PGA tour. They started their own tour. Everybody laughed at 'em. Their ratings were bad. But at some point along the way, the PGA tour needed the LIV tour just as much as the LIV guys needed the PGA tour.

LIV successfully forced the PGA to the table, effectively validating their disruptive strategy.
Void
Take Slip·Jun 7, 2023
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Big CatBig Cat

Team golf doesn't work long-term

I still don't, I think the LIV knew that like team format doesn't work, team formats don't work in golf. It just doesn't. The way golf works is you have a bunch of guys competing against each other for the best.

While team events like the Ryder Cup are popular, a season-long team format hasn't yet proven to be a major mainstream draw.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 7, 2023
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Dan RapaportDan Rapaport

The PGA/LIV merger is a total victory for Saudi Arabia

The general reaction is that this is a win for the Saudis. What's a reaction from the players? You've got the LIV players. Taylor Gooch is on there tweeting a picture of his feet at a beach. Phil is dancing. This is a victory for them. They've wanted this all along.

The PIF successfully integrated with the PGA Tour, achieving significant influence over the sport's future.
Void
Take Slip·Jun 7, 2023
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Dan RapaportDan Rapaport

Jay Monahan and Rory McIlroy are the biggest losers of the LIV/PGA merger

The biggest losers in this, Jay Monahan number one, probably Rory McIlroy number two. Not because Rory's a bad guy, just because he was the most vocal. And Brandel Chamblee, because he really dug his feet in on the take. It's one of the saddest days in the history of professional golf.

McIlroy later expressed feeling like a sacrificial lamb, and Monahan's credibility was severely damaged among players.
Win
Take Slip·May 26, 2023
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Big CatBig Cat

Michael Block is losing fans by saying he'd be one of the best in the world if he had Rory McIlroy's distance

He also had a clip where he said if he had Rory McIlroy's distance... he would be one of the best players in the world. ... He then came out and he is 120th out of 120 participants. ... That clip... what are we talking about here? ... Rory McIlroy, you know why Rory McIlroy has that is because he's a freak athlete and he's worked insanely hard.

Block finished dead last in the tournament immediately following his breakout PGA Championship performance.
Void
Take Slip·May 22, 2023
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Big CatBig Cat

Brooks Koepka is the closest player to Tiger Woods in big moments

Obviously Tiger's the greatest... but I think Brooks is the closest to Tiger in terms of big lights showing up. Like the ice in his veins in these big moments. He's just there.

This is subjective, but Koepka's 5th major win put him in elite company as a modern 'big game hunter' in golf.
Open
Take Slip·May 22, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Brooks Koepka will catch Tiger Woods's major record

Brooks is 10 away from Tiger. I'm gonna be the first to say it. Brooks can catch Tiger Woods's major record.

Tiger has 15 majors; Brooks has 5. Brooks would need 10 more to tie, which is statistically improbable for a player in his 30s.
Void
Take Slip·May 22, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You play golf better when you're hungover

That just backs up, I think what a lot of us already know, which is you play golf better when you're hungover. Because you're like, get me the fuck out of the sun. I wanna get home. So you play faster.

Inherently subjective and largely a comedic observation.
Void
Take Slip·May 19, 2023
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Big CatBig Cat

Frost delays in golf are soft

If you can't just... frost delay. You see frost delay that's soft. That is soft. There's frost on the grass. We can't play.

Subjective opinion about sport toughness vs maintenance requirements.
Win
Take Slip·May 17, 2023
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Brooks KoepkaBrooks Koepka

I choked away the Masters with a four-shot lead

I'd characterize that as a choke. Damn. It was pretty bad. Yeah, I mean, I mean, come on, you got a four shot lead. All you gotta do. I was playing good and just choked it away.

Koepka did lead after 54 holes and failed to win, which fits the standard definition of a sports 'choke'.
Win
Take Slip·May 17, 2023
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Brooks KoepkaBrooks Koepka

LIV and PGA Tour players don't actually have bad blood with each other

There's no bad blood. All everybody's so chill about it, you know, that everyone understands. Right. It's a business at the end of the day... I think it was more like media driven than there is anything. But everybody's cool with each other.

While some specific players had public spats, the eventual merger announcement shortly after this interview confirmed a move toward reconciliation.
Loss
Take Slip·May 17, 2023
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Dan RapaportDan Rapaport

Patrick Cantlay will win his first major this week at the PGA Championship

The guy who I really liked this week who would be a bit of a snoozer champion is Patrick Cantlay. Oh, I feel like this, yeah, I know you guys didn't want to hear that, but stole Tiger's Caddy and I feel like he's gonna win his first major this week.

Cantlay did not win the 2023 PGA Championship; Brooks Koepka won.
Open
Take Slip·May 17, 2023
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Dan RapaportDan Rapaport

Charlie Woods will eventually play as a professional golfer

I'll say yes. I think he will. He will be a pro. You know, being a pro in golf is not that difficult... But the spirit of the question obviously being Will he? Yeah, I think he'll make a run. I mean, all signs point to him being definitely like a division one level player and he'll get a chance.

Charlie Woods is still a teenager and currently playing high school and junior level golf.
Loss
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HankHank

I will become a scratch golfer by the end of the week

I'm gonna become a scratch golfer by the end of the week.

PredictionGolfFireSarcastic
Hank did not become a scratch golfer (0 handicap) by the end of that week, nor has he ever been one.
Open
Take Slip·Apr 21, 2023·Null
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The LIV Tour will eventually do for golf what Tiger Woods did in the late 90s

You just give the live tour three years. And I predict that every kid, every young kid across America, it's gonna do for golf what Tiger Woods did for golf in 19 98, 19 99. It's gonna be a phenomenon.

While LIV merged with the PGA Tour in a sense, it hasn't created a 'Tiger-level' youth phenomenon, and its popularity remains contentious.
Open
Take Slip·Apr 21, 2023·Null
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Big CatBig Cat

Tiger Woods could still win one more major despite his ankle surgery

Even after I just said that it felt dirty and it's like, I'm actually already back to maybe he could win one more because he is Tiger Woods... I'm going to erase my retroactive take and then stick with my original take that he could win one more.

Tiger has not won a major since this take. His health continues to be a major obstacle.
Win
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Big CatBig Cat

The 'pervert' chant at Max Homa is officially canceled and banned

We have to stop saying to Max Homa on the golf course that he's a pervert because it's getting a little weird... permission to shame that person, take a picture and send it to us... no more pervert. That is officially canceled.

The hosts successfully suppressed the meme, and calling Homa a 'pervert' largely faded from the gallery following this episode.
Void
Take Slip·Apr 10, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A bomb disposal expert is the ideal person to be a golfer's mental coach

Having a bomb disposal, that's probably the best person in the world to talk to about remaining calm. Rom wanted to fix his temper because he has all these outbursts... and the bomb disposal guy was like, let's just not talk about golf. Let's just talk about your normal temper.

Open
Take Slip·Apr 10, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I will drive my car into a ravine or off a cliff if Tiger Woods wins another Masters

I will drive my car into a ravine on purpose if Tiger Woods wins another Masters. I'm gonna go ahead and say there's no chance that Tiger wins another masters. If it means that Tiger wins another masters, I will, I will drive off a cliff.

Tiger Woods has not won a Masters since this take was made and his physical condition continues to decline, though he has not retired.
Win
Take Slip·Apr 10, 2023
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Scott Van PeltScott Van Pelt

Brooks Koepka is officially back as a top-tier golfer

Is Brooks officially back? Is he back? Yes. A hundred percent. It was good to talk to him Friday... he's healthy and if he's healthy he's rom strong. Brooks is strong too, man. Unequivocally Brooks Koepka back.

Brooks Koepka won the PGA Championship just one month after this take, officially cementing his return to the top of the sport.
Win
Take Slip·Apr 7, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Brooks Koepka is officially back to his old major championship form

Brooks Koepka is back to his old form, silencing the haters of which there are many. He's just, he's healthy now... the fact that he went out there and he proved that he can do it to himself and he's now leading a major championship after 18 holes. That is like the big psychological hurdle he is gonna get over.

Koepka finished T2 at the 2023 Masters and went on to win the PGA Championship later that year, proving he had indeed returned to elite major form.
Push
Take Slip·Apr 5, 2023
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Max HomaMax Homa

Expected rain at the Masters will lead to low scores and lots of birdies

I saw a lot of rain next week, so you guys might have a tough week there. I think it'll be soft, so might be a lot of birdies. Big hole. I think 13 always plays, they changed it a little bit this year, but that one always seems to be really important... I think there might be [low scores].

The 2023 Masters was plagued by rain delays, but Jon Rahm won with -12, which is a fairly standard winning score for Augusta, not an outlier of low scoring.
Win
Take Slip·Apr 5, 2023
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Shane BaconShane Bacon

Scotty Scheffler's best golf is currently the best in the world

If Scotty Scheffler is playing his best golf, it's the best in the world. And that is definitely not something I would've said six months ago. I think six months ago would've been Rory or would've been John Rahm. But to me right now with the way Scotty Scheffler is able to get the ball in the hole and then around the greens, I think his best is the best in professional golf.

Scheffler went on to have one of the most statistically dominant ball-striking seasons in history following this take.
Loss
Take Slip·Apr 5, 2023
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Shane BaconShane Bacon

LIV golfers will be at a disadvantage at the Masters due to lack of reps

Considering how little amount of golf they've played in a professional environment... tournament golf is like going to the gym. I mean you're not gonna be way more sore if you take breaks weeks off going to the gym and your mind isn't gonna be as sharp for tournament golf if you're not playing as much as like Rory and Scotty and Max. If a LIV player does win, I will take it as more impressive than maybe anything else because they just haven't gone through the reps.

The take was largely debunked by the tournament results: Brooks Koepka and Phil Mickelson (LIV) both finished T2, with three LIV players in the top 10.
Loss
Take Slip·Apr 5, 2023
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Shane BaconShane Bacon

Tiger Woods could realistically be in the Top 5 going into Sunday

The fact that he played [Riviera] this year... playing competitive golf, having a couple of great days I think was huge for Tiger's mental approach. I feel like we will see better from Tiger this year. I would be non-shocked if he was in the top five going into Sunday. I would be non-shocked if he was in the top five.

Tiger Woods made the cut but withdrew before the completion of the third round due to injury, failing to contend.
Loss
Take Slip·Apr 5, 2023
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Shane BaconShane Bacon

Jason Day is a sleeper to watch for a top finish at the Masters

I'll go Jason Day. Jason Day has been trending and his game plays so well at Augusta. Exceptional putter, great pitcher of the golf ball and has kind of gained some distance this year. I would say Jason Day is the name that I'm looking at [to win a second major].

Jason Day finished T39, not really a factor on Sunday.
Win
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Brooks Koepka is the hottest golfer in the world heading into the Masters

My, who's back of the week is Brook's Koepka. Yes. Brooks. Shout out Brooks. He won. He's hot. He's the hottest golfer in the world going into masters week. He's back. He won on the live tour. He battled off Patrick Reed to finish first place in Orlando.

Koepka finished T2 at the 2023 Masters, leading for much of the weekend before Jon Rahm won. He then won the PGA Championship in May 2023, validating that he was indeed 'back'.
Open
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I won't buy a golf bag until I break 130

I'm building myself up like a video game character in golf where I'm not allowing myself to get a golf bag until I break 130. That means that I'm carrying around a full set of clubs whenever I go to golf anywhere... I've literally taken a belt and I've wrapped it around my golf clubs and tightened it to keep them all together.

This is a personal goal/rule PFT set for himself.
Void
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LIV Golf should execute the last place team every week to fix their ratings

I have a very simple way to solve this ratings issue. Execute the last place team every week... The ultimate relegation. Yeah. To the afterlife... Or they don't have cuts but they could chop your head off.

This is a comedic proposal and will not happen.
Loss
Take Slip·Mar 1, 2023
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Joel DahmenJoel Dahmen

Max Homa will win the U.S. Open

I think [Max Homa] is gonna win the US Open... It's in LA, it's where he is from. He's got all those positive vibes... I think LA could be the spot for him.

Wyndham Clark won the 2023 U.S. Open. Max Homa finished T10.
Loss
Take Slip·Mar 1, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Max Homa will win the Masters this year

I actually think [Max Homa] is gonna win the Masters this year.

Jon Rahm won the 2023 Masters. Homa finished T43.
Win
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Big CatBig Cat

LIV Golf will never be a team sport because golf is inherently individual

My four-year-old son Chris walked in the other day and he was like, dad, can we watch the ACEs? He's a Big ACEs player. I don't know why they thought like, golf is not a team sport. No. It's never gonna be a team sport. Ryder Cup is countries, America. People are watching for America on that one.

LIV continues to use the team format, but viewership and fan engagement with the 'teams' remains much lower than individual leaderboards.
Open
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Big CatBig Cat

I will bet on Will Zalatoris in every golf major until he finally wins one

Will Zalatoris on the leaderboard. I was like, God fucking damnit. This is the year for sure. This is, I will bet him in every major until he wins a major. That is a guarantee.

As of the 2024 season, Will Zalatoris has not yet won a major championship, though he has multiple top-10 finishes.
Void
Take Slip·Feb 24, 2023
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Max HomaMax Homa

The Masters and The Open are the two tournaments I want to win most

The Masters is special... that in the open are my two favorite events... that would be, that would be definitely way up on that list.

Subjective preference of the speaker.
Open
Take Slip·Feb 24, 2023
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Max HomaMax Homa

Charlie Woods is going to be better than Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, and Max Homa combined

[Big Cat]: Charlie's next up he's gonna come and beat your brains in... [PFT]: Charlie Woods is gonna be better than Tiger... better than Tiger and Jack combined. [Big Cat]: Better than you. [Max Homa]: Done. You'll just be gone. Which is actually pretty exciting and we'll caddy for him.

Hot TakeGolfScorchingSarcastic
This is a massive projection for a 13-year-old. Tiger has 15 majors; beating that is statistically unlikely.
Void
Take Slip·Feb 24, 2023
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Max HomaMax Homa

You don't need to be the best at every area of the game to be successful in golf

You absolutely do not need to be the best at every area of the game to be successful. So I'm chasing something that I, I know like that that was unattainable to be that good at, honestly. But besides Tiger Tiger's the only person in history that's been the best at like four to five things in golf.

This philosophy has proven successful for Max, as shown by his rise to #12 in the world.
Win
Take Slip·Feb 20, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I have the golf bug now and want to play outside in the winter

I played a little golf. I'm a big time par now. I got the bug. I got the golf bug. That's my big takeaway. Same. You let me take one vacation and and play golf for about six hours. And all of a sudden I'm like fully in, fully back in on golf.

This is a personal lifestyle take; his frequent golf content following this confirms he did indeed get 'the bug'.
Win
Take Slip·Feb 20, 2023
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Big CatBig Cat

Max Homa 'blew it' at the Genesis Invitational

I want credit too. I I held back as long as I could to not say he blew it, but he blew it. He blew it. He blew blew it. He blew, blew fucking blew it.

Homa held a lead during the final round but lost to John Rahm by two strokes.
Loss
Take Slip·Feb 20, 2023
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Max Homa is playing well enough to win the Masters

Max is playing well enough to win the Masters. He is. He could win the, he's going to... he's up to eight. World number eight.

Max Homa finished T43 at the 2023 Masters. He did not win.
Open
Take Slip·Feb 15, 2023·Picks
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am going to break 120 in golf this off-season without cheating

I think this is the off season that I get really into golf... I'm gonna break 120 before, and not by cheating. I'm not gonna cheat except on maybe one water hole I'll cheat on one water hole. But besides that, I'm gonna do it straight up, just clean as can be.

PFT's golf game is a recurring joke, and while he did play more, 'breaking 120' is a low bar that remains unverifiable without official scorecards.
Loss
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Big CatBig Cat

Charlie Woods could win the Masters right now if they let him in

Charlie Woods could win the Masters right now if you wanted to. Is there a way that if they let him in, he could win it? ... Charlie Woods is gonna be the greatest. He's next up. We've always said that on this podcast. He is now he's him.

Charlie Woods is a talented junior golfer, but at 13-14 years old, he would not be competitive in a professional major field.
Open
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Charlie Woods will have more natural ability and be better than Tiger Woods

I love Charlie Woods. I think Charlie's gonna be better than Tiger. I think that even Tiger would admit, Charlie's got more natural ability than Tiger ever had in his life.

Charlie Woods is still a teenager; it is way too early to know if he will surpass the greatest golfer of all time.
Win
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HankHank

Max Homa must be on the Ryder Cup team

If max isn't on the Ryder Cup team... we riot. It's a travesty of justice... He went four and oh in his matches, he had an electric walk in putt on the 18th green on Friday to win his match and the USA dominated and won the Presidents Cup.

Max Homa was indeed selected for the 2023 U.S. Ryder Cup team.
Open
Take Slip·Sep 21, 2022
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Max HomaMax Homa

Having a baby will give me 'dad strength' to win a major

I've I've, I've heard that. That is in a big part of momentum. And also I've heard a lot of guys see, you get dad strength for a little bit. So maybe at Augusta I'll just be bombing it. Outta nowhere. So I'm looking forward to the, to the perspective I will gain. And the dad strength. I think that those are the things I've been missing in the majors.

As of early 2024, Homa has not yet won a major, though his performance in them has improved (e.g., T10 at the 2023 Open).
Win
Take Slip·Aug 29, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Rory McIlroy is playing the best golf of his career

Credit to us though, because we're the first people I think on the planet that told you that Rory McIlroy was playing the best golf of his career before the season even started.

McIlroy won three times in the 2021-22 season including the Tour Championship, supporting the claim that he was at a peak.
Win
Take Slip·Aug 26, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The TGL indoor golf league is basically a 'Dude Perfect life simulator'

The new PGA thing, it looks like, like a dude perfect life simulator. The indoor tour with Rory and tiger. There's just going to like be standing in convention halls, just like smashing drives. And they're turning they're basically, they're trying to turn golf into, as close to a video game as you can get.

The TGL league matches this description (high-tech arena golf), though it was delayed to 2025.
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Big CatBig Cat

Will Zalatoris made a deal with the devil to win one tournament and his injury is the cost

I'm nervous that he made a deal with the devil and the deal with the devil was let me win one. That's what I'm nervous about. And I bet on him last week to finish top 10... I'm nervous cuz it feels like the timing is [predominant].

Hot TakeGolfHotSarcastic
While the 'devil' part is a joke, Zalatoris did win his first event and immediately missed substantial time with a back injury.
Win
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan overplayed his hand and had zero leverage against LIV Golf

He also overplayed his hand. Yeah, of course. And everyone's like, yeah. Okay. You know what? You know, what's better than, than winning. The fortnight challenge is getting a hundred million guaranteed. So Jay Monahan just needs to be like, listen, I fucked this one up. I'm firing myself... It's a classic case of really overplaying your hand and thinking that you had all the leverage in the world when you actually had zero.

Ultimately correct, as the PGA Tour later agreed to a merger framework with the PIF (LIV's backers), essentially admitting they couldn't beat them financially.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The LIV Tour could eventually take over everything in our lives, including this podcast

I mean, it's a possibility that live tour could just take over everything that we like. Yeah. In every single branch of our life in this podcast. Yes. Open for business.

Hot TakeGolfHotSarcastic
LIV did not take over the podcast, though it did disrupt golf significantly before the eventual PGA/LIV 'framework agreement'.
Win
Take Slip·Jul 22, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The LIV Golf tour is a failure as a sports-washing operation because it only makes people talk about Saudi Arabia's human rights record

The entire premise of the LIV tour through the public investment fund is to be like a giant commercial for Saudi Arabia... It's been a gigantic failure on that respect because all anyone talks about is how bad Saudi Arabia is when LIV tour comes up... it's definitely the Streisand effect.

While LIV gained traction later, its early years were dominated by controversy rather than positive PR for Saudi Arabia.
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