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Take Slip·Jun 17, 2016
#PMT-2016-0617-1316
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Steph Curry throwing his mouthguard at a fan is assault and battery

It's assault, right? Like, let's be honest. It's assault. Steph Curry, I mean, he's an NBA player... he's a professional athlete, probably has some sort of communicable STD, getting hit with that mouth guard. That is grounds for lawsuit. That's assault. I believe it's also battery.

No legal charges were ever filed, and it was widely considered a typical technical foul/ejection, not a criminal act.
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#PMT-2016-0615-16383
Big CatBig Cat

David Stern is still secretly pulling the strings of the NBA behind the scenes

Adam Silver's not. Adam Silver cleaned up the league... Meanwhile David Stern is behind the scenes suspending Draymond Green and getting these ratings... he's the master puppet and I love it.

David Stern was retired at this point and not involved in daily league operations.
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Take Slip·Jun 13, 2016
#PMT-2016-0613-18842
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Draymond Green missed LeBron James' testicles because LeBron is on steroids

Draymond threw a punch directly into the groin and didn't make contact with LeBron James' nuts... steroids, common side effect, shrink the testicles. making them harder to hit, harder to locate. So I think that the fact that Draymond... didn't make contact... that is a major red flag. And if I'm Adam Silver, I'm personally walking a piss cup into the Cavaliers' locker room and making LeBron James urinate into it.

There is no evidence LeBron James used steroids or that this was why Draymond Green missed a punch.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2016
#PMT-2016-0610-18919
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Steph Curry is playing poorly because he is addicted to opioids

I think that Steph Curry, he got hurt and he got put on some pain medicine... Now he's off the pain medicine. He's off the Vicodin and he's addicted to opioids now. And so like he can't – He's got like a vicious hangover. He can't find a stroke because his arms are shaking.

There was never any evidence for this; Curry was recovering from an actual MCL sprain.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2016
#PMT-2016-0610-18920
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cavaliers will lose the 2016 NBA Finals in six games

The series hasn't started yet... real talk... they're going to lose in six.

The Cavaliers famously came back from 3-1 down to win the series in seven games, making this prediction incorrect.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2016
#PMT-2016-0610-18921
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA will give the Cavs the 'David Stern treatment' with favorable officiating in Game 4

I think they're going to win game four. And I think we're going to get another David Stern treatment where they'll get some calls. And game five and six, the Warriors will punish them.

The Warriors actually won Game 4 to go up 3-1, though the officiating became a major talking point in Game 5 when Draymond Green was suspended.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2016
#PMT-2016-0606-1056
Big CatBig Cat

The Cavaliers are officially dead after Game 2 of the NBA Finals

The Cavaliers are officially dead. I feel confident about this time. I've done this before, and I had to eat some crow... because the Cavaliers have been blown out now two times.

The Cavaliers famously came back from a 3-1 deficit to win this series, making this declaration incorrect.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2016
#PMT-2016-0606-1058
Big CatBig Cat

The Golden State Warriors are better off without Steph Curry

I've seen enough and I know enough that if you take Steph out of the Warriors, they're just as good, if not better. [They haven't said his name] all series because he's been on the bench all series.

Steph Curry is an all-time great and the Warriors are objectively worse without him; they eventually lost the series when LeBron/Kyrie took over.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2016
#PMT-2016-0606-1059
Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

The Cavaliers are finished in the 2016 NBA Finals

Cavs, done or finished. It's looking pretty bad, man. I actually thought they were going to win tonight. It's looking pretty bad. I'm going to say they're finished.

Cleveland won the series, making this a classic 'Freezing Cold Take' from an NBA peer.
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#PMT-2016-0606-1064
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James lacks grit because he peaked in high school

LeBron has no grit, but it's not from his own – it's not his own fault... I think that LeBron's just been screwed over. Like I said, the guy peaked in high school and... he was back in, like, 11th, 12th grade being put in the center of the universe.

LeBron went on to win the 2016 Finals in a historic grit-filled performance, effectively debunking the 'no grit' narrative.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2016
#PMT-2016-0603-17692
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James would be a better player if he had gone to college

I think maybe if LeBron James had gone to college, he would be a better player. What do you learn in college? You learn how to make new friends and how to trust other people. LeBron has some trouble with that.

LeBron is widely considered one of the two greatest players ever without college; it is highly unlikely 1-4 years of college would have made him 'better'.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2016
#PMT-2016-0603-17694
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James peaked in high school

I'll be the first to say it. LeBron James peaked in high school. There it is. Boom.

LeBron James went on to win 4 NBA championships and 4 MVPs after high school.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2016
#PMT-2016-0603-17698
Big CatBig Cat

We need to stop talking about Shaun Livingston's knee injury because it was a decade ago

At what point can we just move on from the Shaun Livingston knee issue? It's been, I don't know, six, seven years. He's been totally fine for a really long time... I just want people to stop with Sean Livingston's stuff. He had a knee injury 10 years ago. Knees grow back by then.

Biologically, knees do not 'grow back', though Livingston did play several more healthy seasons.
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Take Slip·Jun 1, 2016
#PMT-2016-0601-9142
Michael RapaportMichael Rapaport

Warriors in 7 over the Cavaliers

Warriors in 7. In a heartbreaker in Oracle Arena. It's going to be a heartbreaker.

The series did go 7 games, but the Warriors lost at home in Oracle Arena to the Cavaliers.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2016
#PMT-2016-0531-16530
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is the Dan Marino of the NBA

Is it fair to say that Kevin Durant is potentially like the Dan Marino of the NBA? You got to start having that conversation, though. Like, is he the best player that will never win a championship?

Durant went on to win two championships with the Golden State Warriors in 2017 and 2018, shedding the 'Dan Marino' label.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2016
#PMT-2016-0531-16534
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cavaliers will not lose another home game as long as I leave my wallet in the arena

The Cleveland Cavaliers have not lost a game since I left my wallet in the Q... My wallet's going to be in there until the end of the finals and then I'll get it back because I think my wallet has actually helped the Cavs. So if I keep the wallet there, the Cavs aren't going to lose a home game.

The Cavs lost Game 4 at home to the Warriors (June 10, 2016), so the 'wallet curse' didn't keep them undefeated at home, even though they eventually won the series.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2016
#PMT-2016-0527-4661
Big CatBig Cat

The Thunder will smoke the Warriors in Game 6

I think the Thunder are going to smoke the Warriors in game six.

The Warriors won Game 6 (the famous Klay Thompson game) and Game 7 to win the series.
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Take Slip·May 25, 2016
#PMT-2016-0525-1879
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Warriors' season is over

The Warriors are dead. They're in the grave, man. It's done. It's done. Three to one. They're going back to Oakland. They're not looking like the same team.

The Warriors came back from 3-1 to win the series in 7 games.
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Take Slip·May 25, 2016
#PMT-2016-0525-1882
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You don't need an MCL to shoot a basketball

Last time I checked, you don't score with your MCL. You score with your hands and your eyes. What did they teach you when you were learning to shoot? Balance, eyes, elbow, follow through. It's not beef and call. There's no MCL in there.

Biologically, leg strength and stability from the MCL are crucial for jump shots, making the literal claim incorrect.
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Take Slip·May 25, 2016
#PMT-2016-0525-1883
Big CatBig Cat

I expect the NBA Finals to be Thunder vs. Cavaliers

I think it's going to be Thunder, Cavs in the finals. But if there's two teams that can disrupt that, it's the Raptors and the Warriors.

The Warriors came back to beat the Thunder, so the finals were Warriors vs. Cavaliers.
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Take Slip·May 23, 2016
#PMT-2016-0523-7021
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Steph Curry is too fragile for the NBA and needs to add 30 pounds

The scouts were right. He's too fragile to play in the NBA. Needs to add another 20, 30 pounds to his frame this offseason.

Steph Curry is an all-time great and won four championships; the idea that he is 'too fragile' is a joke.
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Take Slip·May 23, 2016
#PMT-2016-0523-7023
Big CatBig Cat

The Thunder are the best team in the league when Durant and Westbrook click on the same night

When they [Durant and Westbrook] do that, you can't beat them... They, at some point, will click on the exact same night, and they're the best team in the league.

The Thunder famously blew a 3-1 lead in this series, so while they were dominant for a stretch, they weren't 'unbeatable'.
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Take Slip·May 23, 2016
#PMT-2016-0523-7025
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James will eventually injure himself while flopping

He's going to flop at some point and do that extra thing that he does and turn his ankle during the flop. And at that point, is it a flop anymore? It's going to be amazing. That's all I'm rooting for now is I want LeBron to hurt himself while he's flopping.

LeBron James has remained remarkably durable throughout his career and has never sustained a major injury due to a flop.
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Take Slip·May 23, 2016
#PMT-2016-0523-7027
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James will dominate Game 4 against the Raptors and rip their hearts out

LeBron is going to come out in game four and he is going to rip the heart out of the Toronto Raptors... what he's going to do is he's going to step on their throats, and Drake is going to be crying at the bench... this is a LeBron James game, game four.

The Raptors actually won Game 4 (105-99) to tie the series 2-2. LeBron had 29 points, but did not 'rip their hearts out' in that specific game.
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Take Slip·May 20, 2016
#PMT-2016-0520-14076
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cavaliers are Kyrie Irving's team now

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Cavaliers are Kyrie Irving's team now... Kyrie's awesome. He put up more shots, had more points. I think it's safe to say this is Kyrie Irving's team. And he is the missing ingredient that was not there last year in the finals.

While Kyrie was vital, LeBron James remained the clear leader, winning the 2016 Finals MVP later that season.
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Take Slip·May 20, 2016
#PMT-2016-0520-14077
Big CatBig Cat

The Raptors are a disgrace to basketball and to Canada

The Raptors are just a disgrace, disgrace to basketball, disgrace to Canada... I don't want to be in the Eastern Conference Finals if you get swept like this.

The Raptors actually recovered to win Games 3 and 4, making this take age poorly within a week.
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Take Slip·May 20, 2016
#PMT-2016-0520-14078
Big CatBig Cat

The Cavaliers will sweep the Raptors

It's going to be a sweep. I don't think the Raptors can steal one in Toronto even.

The Raptors won Game 3 99-84 and Game 4 105-99.
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Take Slip·May 18, 2016
#PMT-2016-0518-15372
Big CatBig Cat

The Cavs vs. Raptors series is already over after Game 1

The series is going to be brutal to watch. Maybe the Raptors play close for four quarters in Toronto for one game, but I don't even give them that. It's I mean, the Cavs are locked in. They're on a different level right now. So this this is this series is over as far as I'm concerned.

The Cavaliers won the series 4-2. Big Cat predicted they might not even win a single game in Toronto, but the Raptors won both Games 3 and 4.
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#PMT-2016-0516-4430
Big CatBig Cat

The Phoenix Mercury will be very tough to beat and the Sky won't beat them if they meet in the finals

I do think that the [Phoenix] Mercury are going to be very, very tough to beat. If the [Chicago] Sky go up against them again in the finals, I'm not liking the Sky's chances.

The Los Angeles Sparks won the 2016 WNBA title. The Mercury were swept by the Lynx in the semi-finals, and the Sky lost in the semi-finals to the Sparks.
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Take Slip·May 13, 2016
#PMT-2016-0513-9887
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 2017 NBA Finals will be the Wizards vs. the Warriors, with the Wizards winning in six games

I got the Wizards because John Wall and Kevin Durant are going to be tough to defend. So I got the Wizards going up again. I'm going to say the Warriors make it back again. Wizards, Warriors, Wizards in six.

KD signed with the Warriors. The 2017 Finals were Warriors vs. Cavs. The Wizards did not make the Finals.
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Take Slip·May 13, 2016
#PMT-2016-0513-9888
Big CatBig Cat

The 2017 NBA Finals will be the Cavs vs. the Lakers, with the Lakers winning in seven games

I got Cavs, Lakers, Lakers in seven. [Because] KD is going to the Lakers. And Dwight Howard's going back to the Lakers.

The Lakers finished 26-56 in 2017. KD went to Golden State and Dwight Howard went to Atlanta.
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Take Slip·May 13, 2016
#PMT-2016-0513-9889
HankHank

The 2017 NBA Finals will be the Celtics vs. the Warriors

I got Celtics and Warriors. Kevin Durant and Isaiah Thomas are going to be a serious force to be reckoned with.

The Celtics lost to the Cavs in the ECF. KD did not join the Celtics.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2016
#PMT-2016-0511-19420
HankHank

Kevin Love is the best player of all time because he is 12-0 in the playoffs

People forget that Kevin Love is undefeated in the NBA playoffs... He's undefeated. 12-0. The Cavs literally never lost with Kevin Love. Kevin Love has literally never lost in the playoffs. He's maybe the best player of all time.

While he was technically 12-0 at the time of the take (4-0 in 2015 before injury, 8-0 to start 2016), he eventually lost games in the 2016 Finals and is not the GOAT.
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Take Slip·May 4, 2016
#PMT-2016-0504-9627
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Does LeBron James have the it factor and the clutch gene?

My question is, does LeBron have the it factor? I don't think people are talking about this enough. He's won a couple championships, but the years that he won it, was he really the it guy? Did he really have that clutch gene?

LeBron went on to win the 2016 NBA Finals in historic fashion later that season, proving he had the 'it factor'.
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Take Slip·May 2, 2016
#PMT-2016-0502-14569
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Golden State Warriors offense works better without Steph Curry

Now I'm starting to hear reporters out West saying that the, that the Warriors function in like a more smooth offense. Now that Steph Curry's gone... they're like, you know, there are elements of this offense that work better without them.

While they played well in stints, they were objectively a dynasty because of Curry. They lost the Finals this year and won more with him later.
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#PMT-2016-0429-8457
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James has been doing steroids since the day he was born

Steph Curry's hurt, Chris Paul's hurt, Blake Griffin's hurt, you know who's never missed the playoff game? LeBron James. But LeBron James has always been huge. ... Always has been doing steroids probably since the day he was born. I've never seen a more clear steroid case in my life than LeBron James.

There is no public evidence to support this claim; it is part of a comedic segment.
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#PMT-2016-0427-14780
Big CatBig Cat

Russell Westbrook is an All-Star, not a NBA Superstar

Westbrook? All-star. I agree with [Mark] Cuban. Not a superstar. My criteria for superstar is a superstar has at least like 10 million Chinese people wearing their shoes.

While subjective, Westbrook went on to win the NBA MVP the very next season (2016-17) and averaged a triple-double for several seasons, making the 'not a superstar' claim look very wrong in retrospect.
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#PMT-2016-0427-14784
Big CatBig Cat

Anthony Davis is a bum because he can't get a date on Tinder

Anthony Davis? He's a bum. He's a bum right now. Did you see him on the thing with Tinder? He was saying he couldn't get a date. Now let me ask this: does an all-star, a star, a superstar ever not be able to get a date? Anthony Davis is a bum.

Anthony Davis went on to win a championship and multiple All-NBA honors, proving his superstar status on the court despite his Tinder struggles.
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#PMT-2016-0427-14785
Big CatBig Cat

Jimmy Butler is a bad leader and a bum

Jimmy Butler is an all-star, but he's also – he's got a couple bum qualities in him that have pissed me off. ... He's an all-star who thinks he's a superstar, which then makes that part of his brain bum-like. ... He is the leader of the Bulls now, yes, but he's a bad leader. ... All right, fine. He's a bum star.

Butler eventually led the Heat to two Finals appearances, widely disproving the 'bad leader' and 'bum' labels, though his exit from Chicago was messy.
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Take Slip·Apr 25, 2016
#PMT-2016-0425-4022
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Golden State Warriors are better without Steph Curry

I think the Golden State Warriors are a better basketball team without Steph Curry. Thompson can really shine now.

The Warriors lost the 2016 NBA Finals partly due to Curry's health/limitations, and they were statistically much worse without him.
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#PMT-2016-0422-4001
Big CatBig Cat

Stanley Johnson is actually in LeBron James' head by making LeBron think he's crazy

So you're thinking LeBron has probably read this and was like – like laughed it off, like, ha, ha, ha, ha, Stanley Johnson thinks he's in my head. And then there was a quick pause, and he's like, uh – maybe he is. I don't know.

LeBron and the Cavs swept the Pistons 4-0 in this series, and LeBron's performance suggested he was not affected by Stanley Johnson.
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Take Slip·Apr 18, 2016
#PMT-2016-0418-11414
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Matthew Dellavedova could make the roster of most NHL teams

I will say that Matt Dellavedova could probably make the roster of most NHL players, but he's probably the only NBA player that I think could cross over into the other sport.

Dellavedova is a professional basketball player with no known high-level hockey experience. Literally incorrect but a great joke.
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Take Slip·Apr 18, 2016
#PMT-2016-0418-11421
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NBA's new hustle stats are just a way for Matthew Dellavedova's agent to get him a big payday

Basically it's like—it's Matthew Dellavedova's agent coming up with these stats to try to get Delly a big payday this offseason. Just being in somebody's face for a shot is now a stat.

The stats were released by the NBA, not an agent, making the literal claim incorrect, though it's a comedic observation.
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Take Slip·Apr 11, 2016
#PMT-2016-0411-1354
Big CatBig Cat

The 2016 Warriors will win the NBA title

The Golden State Warriors won their 72nd game last night against the Spurs. So now they are an all-time team. Unless they don't win the title. If they don't win the title, then it really doesn't matter. But we all kind of assume they will win the title.

The Warriors blew a 3-1 lead to the Cavaliers in the 2016 NBA Finals.
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Take Slip·Apr 6, 2016
#PMT-2016-0406-18241
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The UConn women's basketball team would be a 3-5 point favorite over the Philadelphia 76ers

I think that the – well, yeah, [UConn women] are going to win, and I think that the spread against the Sixers, they'd be like three to five-point favorites, depending if it was in UConn or if it was being played in Philly.

The Philadelphia 76ers, even in their 'Process' era, would easily defeat any college team, men's or women's, due to the professional skill gap.
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Take Slip·Apr 6, 2016
#PMT-2016-0406-18242
Big CatBig Cat

Villanova would beat the Philadelphia 76ers

So yeah, I Villanova, I'd take Villanova over the Sixers.

Professional NBA teams do not lose to college teams under normal circumstances.
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#PMT-2016-0323-3708
Big CatBig Cat

Matthew Dellavedova is a better player than Kyrie Irving

Deli is better than Kyrie. How does your starting point guard only have four assists when the team scores 124? Kyrie is more worried about his brand than actually winning.

Kyrie Irving is an 8-time All-Star and NBA Champion; Dellavedova was a role player. This is widely considered a hilariously bad take in hindsight.
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Take Slip·Mar 18, 2016
#PMT-2016-0318-2736
Big CatBig Cat

Coaches collapse during games for motivation or to avoid accountability

Tony Bennett made the mistake of doing it when his team's up. You're supposed to do it when it's down so that even if you lose, people can't be like, oh, that coach sucks... I think that every single time my team got down big in a big game, I just collapsed... and then if you lose, everyone's like, wow, man, I can't believe like he just collapsed and he kept on coaching.

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The idea that these are staged is satirical, though Bennett's collapse was attributed to dehydration.
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Take Slip·Mar 18, 2016
#PMT-2016-0318-2737
Big CatBig Cat

Ivy League schools shouldn't be allowed to participate in March Madness

All these rich pricks that think they're better than everyone they shouldn't get this experience. No, it's a state school experience only... You fucking Ivy League kids should not get to participate in March Madness.

The Ivy League is a full Division I conference and eligible for the tournament. Big Cat's take is a purely biased opinion.
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Take Slip·Mar 18, 2016
#PMT-2016-0318-2740
Todd FuhrmanTodd Fuhrman

Cincinnati will beat St. Joe's because they are too big and physical

I think Cincinnati, too big and too physical for St. Joe's. St. Joe's wants to play on the perimeter. Cincinnati will beat you up physically. They're not going to wow you with their jump-shooting ability, but I think they'll be able to get easy buckets. So I like Cincinnati in that game, laying the 2, 2.5.

St. Joseph's defeated Cincinnati 78-76 in the first round on March 18, 2016.
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