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#PMT-2017-0913-14814
Big CatBig Cat

Kobe Bryant retiring both numbers is the most 'Kobe' story ever

Kobe Bryant, they're going to retire both of his numbers. That is the most Kobe story I have ever heard... Kobe Bryant, they're going to retire both of his numbers. [Jordan] is one number. No, but it's two separate numbers in different locations. Different teams.

The Lakers did indeed retire both 8 and 24 on December 18, 2017.
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#PMT-2017-0901-6249
Big CatBig Cat

The NCAA will investigate LaMelo Ball for selling shoes

Yes, this is going to pique their [NCAA] interest a little. If you take any dollar out of the NCAA's pockets, they will come down on you. So yes, I think the NCAA will look into this.

LaMelo eventually lost his NCAA eligibility and played overseas before the NBA.
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#PMT-2017-0830-8422
Big CatBig Cat

Malcolm Gladwell would probably beat LeBron James in a long-distance foot race

LeBron got challenged by Malcolm Gladwell to a foot race... These fucking nerds, all they do is they go and find the biggest alpha on the block... they're like, hey, I'll challenge you to this sport that's not a sport and we'll make it really long distance so you get super tired. And I honestly can see Malcolm Gladwell winning. Nerds are always faster because they have to run from their bullies from a young age.

This is a hypothetical about Malcolm Gladwell beating LeBron James in a long-distance race. It was never tested and is an untestable opinion about athletic ability.
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#PMT-2017-0830-8427
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dwayne Wade and LeBron James are definitely planning a team-up because they are 'going' to dinner

I would say that going to dinner is more intimate than meeting for dinner. Because going to dinner implies that you're going there... Every time you go to dinner, you have to meet somebody for dinner. But every time you meet for dinner, you're not necessarily going to dinner together. I think the act of going is way, way more intimate than just meeting... Not just friends. You don't just go to dinner.

Wade did eventually join LeBron in Cleveland later that year (September 2017) after a buyout from Chicago, so the 'plotting' suspicion was correct.
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Take Slip·Aug 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0825-2966
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is only defending jersey burning to protect his future self for when he leaves Cleveland again

LeBron's statements are right. I'm always a players guy. The owners don't look out for the players. But this, to me, is classic LeBron looking out for future LeBron. Because he knows he's going to leave.

LeBron James did indeed leave the Cleveland Cavaliers in 2018 for the Los Angeles Lakers, proving Big Cat's prediction about him leaving right.
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Take Slip·Aug 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0825-2968
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It is only socially acceptable to burn LeBron James' jersey

Any player that is a traitor to the town that he was born in and then leaves twice. That's fair. So LeBron James. It is now socially acceptable only to burn LeBron James' jersey.

Social acceptability is subjective, but the take is delivered as a joke regarding LeBron's unique status.
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Take Slip·Aug 23, 2017
#PMT-2017-0823-13637
Big CatBig Cat

Celtics fans have no right to complain about trading draft picks for Kyrie Irving

I don't understand Celtics fans that have been bitching and moaning about Danny Ainge not trading picks... and then when he does trade it, being like, well, we should have held on to that pick. Because you just got a guy who is [a] top five scorer in the NBA, a guy who can score in the finals of the NBA finals.

While Kyrie was an All-Star in Boston, the tenure ended poorly with no finals appearances, and the pick traded (which became Collin Sexton) was valuable, though not franchise-altering.
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Take Slip·Aug 23, 2017
#PMT-2017-0823-13639
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James will still leave the Cavaliers after the 2017-18 season

It does make a lot of drama, and I still do think LeBron is leaving. Although now it's sourced material from our friend Ryan Russell says LeBron doesn't know what to do because he hasn't decided if he hates Isaiah Thomas yet or not.

LeBron James did indeed leave the Cleveland Cavaliers to join the Los Angeles Lakers in the summer of 2018.
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Take Slip·Aug 21, 2017
#PMT-2017-0821-1154
Michael RapaportMichael Rapaport

LeBron James is definitely going to the Lakers next year.

[Big Cat]: Where do you think [LeBron] is going? [PFT Commenter]: LA. [Michael Rapaport]: If you're a little pussy-ass bitch, you go to LA. ... Lakers. It's already set up.

LeBron James signed with the Los Angeles Lakers in July 2018.
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Take Slip·Aug 21, 2017
#PMT-2017-0821-1155
Michael RapaportMichael Rapaport

James Harden and Chris Paul will not be able to get along on the Rockets because there is only one ball.

There's only one ball. No, only one ball. Only one ball. It's not going to work. No. No, only one ball. They're not winning shit. No. Houston ain't winning shit.

The Harden/Paul pairing was elite in their first year, winning 65 games and taking the Warriors to 7 games in the Western Conference Finals. They eventually flamed out, but they 'got along' well enough for immediate success.
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Take Slip·Aug 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0818-7973
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is 100% leaving Cleveland after this season

Chris Sheridan said... NBA Source said today... this will be [LeBron James's] final season in Cleveland. He is 100% leaving. Relationship with owners beyond repair.

LeBron James did indeed leave Cleveland in the summer of 2018 to join the Los Angeles Lakers.
Win
#PMT-2017-0816-6120
Big CatBig Cat

The Chicago Bulls' 'TNT Bulls' home winning streak is still alive because they weren't scheduled for any TNT games

The NBA has run away, cowards. They have not scheduled the Bulls, the Chicago Bulls, on TNT Thursday night this year... the record, the 20 straight home wins on TNT, you can't lose if you don't play.

The Bulls were indeed notably absent from the TNT schedule in 2017-18, preserving their 'streak' in a technical, albeit meaningless, sense.
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Take Slip·Aug 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0816-6121
Dikembe MutomboDikembe Mutombo

I am the best defensive player of all time

No, I'm still number one. [Over Dellavedova]... Yeah, I think I was the best I've ever done it.

Subjective ranking, though Mutombo is statistically and award-wise one of the top 3-5 defenders in NBA history.
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Take Slip·Aug 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0816-6122
Dikembe MutomboDikembe Mutombo

The 'Who wants to sex Mutombo' story is completely false

I have defended myself. I have splendid myself, and I continue to splendid myself. Nobody don't know where that story come from... That story is not true. And I always even ask Alonzo Mourning, where did you get it? He said, no, somebody told me too.

While it's impossible to verify a negative, Mutombo has consistently denied this his entire life. It remains a 'he-said/he-said' between him and other 90s NBA stars.
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#PMT-2017-0811-19576
Big CatBig Cat

Coach K uses surgery as an excuse to take a break when his team is struggling

Coach K. He just gets a surgery every fucking day. ... Usually when his team's like, oh, maybe the number one recruiting class isn't so good. ... he's had every part operated on, so he doesn't really have any other excuses.

This is a subjective conspiracy theory common among Duke haters.
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#PMT-2017-0809-5322
Big CatBig Cat

The Detroit Pistons 90s horse logo jersey is one of the worst ever

My number one was the Pistons throwback. Remember when the Pistons changed their logo in the 90s? The green and yellow and red horse. The worst jersey criteria is when the original jersey was great and the original logo was great. They're like, we're just going to make everything weird colors.

Subjective opinion on aesthetics.
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#PMT-2017-0802-8970
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Michael Jordan would amputate his own leg just to win a game against LaVar Ball

Michael Jordan is also so competitive that if LaVar responds to him, he might get his leg amputated just to play one game of basketball and beat him.

This is a comedic exaggeration and not a literal prediction.
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Take Slip·Jul 31, 2017
#PMT-2017-0731-12308
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James is dead and Steph Curry murdered him

LeBron James is dead. D-E-D. Dead. Steph Curry murdered him. Kyrie backstabbed him, went behind his back. Very Shakespearean, this whole thing.

The statement is metaphorical; LeBron James is physically alive and remained the top player in the league for years following this.
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Take Slip·Jul 31, 2017
#PMT-2017-0731-12309
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James will average 30-10-10 this season

LeBron is going to go on a rampage this year. He's like 30-10-10 for sure. Just mark it down. I mean, this is what happened in the NBA Finals... His numbers are going to keep going up.

LeBron had an incredible season (27.5 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 9.1 APG) and played all 82 games, but did not reach the 30-10-10 threshold.
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Take Slip·Jul 31, 2017
#PMT-2017-0731-12310
HankHank

LeBron James will lose early in the playoffs and leave Cleveland

He's going to gas himself out, lose in the first or second round of the playoffs, and then leave town.

LeBron did leave Cleveland in 2018, but he led them to the NBA Finals that year, not an early exit.
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Take Slip·Jul 28, 2017
#PMT-2017-0728-13141
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I would bet on Stephen A. Smith in a fight against LeBron James

I would put money on Stephen A. Smith in a fight against LeBron James.

LeBron James is 6'9" and 250lbs of elite muscle; Stephen A. Smith is a sports journalist. The outcome is obvious but the fight never happened.
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Take Slip·Jul 28, 2017
#PMT-2017-0728-13143
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is setting up excuses to leave Cleveland by blaming Kyrie and the front office

This is all setting up. You first have the GM situation. You have Dan Gilbert acting crazy as always. You have Kyrie asking for a trade. LeBron can now leave Cleveland and be like, it's not my fault. It was all on you guys.

LeBron did leave for the Lakers in the 2018 offseason after the Cavs' situation continued to deteriorate. Big Cat correctly identified the narrative strategy.
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Take Slip·Jul 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0726-4226
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is triggered and definitely not enjoying his summer

LeBron James is triggered... When he hashtags 'enjoying my summer', hashtag 'you do the same', that's a pretty telltale sign he is not enjoying his summer. Because you know LeBron probably told someone to tell Stephen A. Smith, 'Hey, I want to beat Kyrie Irving's ass,' and then when it comes out, he goes to Twitter.

The fallout between LeBron and Kyrie led to a trade to Boston shortly after, confirming the tension Big Cat noted.
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Take Slip·Jul 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0726-4227
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James' next social media move will be posting lion quotes to look like an alpha

This is going to end in a couple weeks with LeBron posting like an image of a lion that says 'lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.' His next post will be him in the gym just being like 'out here grinding, not worrying about Kyrie Irving.'

LeBron famously posted workout videos and motivational/cryptic quotes throughout the 2017 offseason.
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#PMT-2017-0726-4233
Big CatBig Cat

Derrick Rose signing with the Cavs is sad and marks the end of his relevancy

Derrick Rose just signed with the Cavs... He's going to be LeBron's little sidekick. Is he going to be Robin? It's very sad how his career has turned out. $2.1 million to play with a guy that he absolutely despised when he was in Chicago.

Rose struggled with the Cavs, was traded mid-season, and never returned to superstar status, though he had a later career resurgence in Minnesota.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-717
Big CatBig Cat

Kyrie Irving is requesting a trade to control his own destiny like LeBron James

I love it because [Kyrie Irving]'s basically pulling LeBron in LeBron's face. He's like, I want to control my own destiny just like you have. ... Kyrie's like, yeah, I don't want to stick around for you to leave next year and fuck me over.

Kyrie Irving did successfully force a trade to the Boston Celtics in August 2017, confirming his desire to leave Cleveland.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-718
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyrie Irving is going to be traded to the Knicks for Kristaps Porzingis and Carmelo Anthony

Kyrie to the Knicks today. It's happening. ... Today, sometime this week, for Kristaps. ... We are hearing that it could be for Kristaps and Melo.

This trade never happened; Kyrie was traded to the Celtics for Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, and a draft pick.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-720
HankHank

LeBron James is going to break Cleveland's hearts by leaving again

It's really, though, I'm sorry, I just feel bad for the people of Cleveland because LeBron's just going to break their hearts again.

LeBron James left the Cavaliers for the Los Angeles Lakers in the summer of 2018.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-719
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyrie Irving requesting a trade proves he is a 'beta' player

So Kyrie, not an alpha, right? ... Well, there you go. So that means he's not an alpha. Current beta. He's currently robbing LeBron James Batman. He's self-admitting that he's a beta. ... By asking for a trade, you're telling on yourself that you've been a beta for the last five years.

This is a subjective characterization typical of PFT's persona.
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#PMT-2017-0721-12238
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Wally Szczerbiak and Keith Van Horn were going to be incredible NBA players

I thought that Nick Kaner-Medley, Wally Szczerbiak, Steve Wojciechowski, and Keith Van Horn would all be incredible NBA players.

While they had decent careers (Szczerbiak and Van Horn especially), they were not 'incredible' or elite superstars as predicted.
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#PMT-2017-0721-12240
HankHank

Rajon Rondo is just one notch below Paul Pierce in Celtics history

When Rajon Rondo got traded to the Mavericks, I said he was a notch below Pierce, who was like a notch below Bill Russell.

Pierce and Russell are top-tier legends with retired jerseys; Rondo's legacy, while strong, is several tiers lower.
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Take Slip·Jul 21, 2017
#PMT-2017-0721-12241
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

Lonzo Ball's Summer League introduction was the sixth most popular post in NBA Instagram history

The NBA made a press release today saying that of all the posts that the league has ever put on Instagram... that Lonzo being introduced at Summer League, when they put that up on IG... That's the sixth most popular thing they've ever put up.

Based on NBA communications at the time, this was a correct reporting of their internal social media metrics.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16974
Big CatBig Cat

Lonzo Ball's terrible shooting mechanics will get stuffed in his face against real NBA competition

We could make [the NBA logo] Lonzo Ball and his terrible shooting mechanics that are going to get stuffed back in his face a million times when he plays real competition, not in the summer league.

While Lonzo struggled initially, he became a 37-40% 3-point shooter with a rebuilt form. He wasn't 'stuffed back in his face' as predicted; he adapted his game successfully.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16984
JJ WattJJ Watt

Michael Jordan is better than LeBron James

[Gun to your head] I mean, you go with MJ.

The GOAT debate is a matter of opinion.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16986
JJ WattJJ Watt

LeBron James' career is an incredible feat given the spotlight he has faced since age 18

For what [LeBron]'s had to handle from such a young age... to have the entire world spotlight on you, expecting you to be great, and to go out there and to live up to all the hype that people have put on you. And also have a clean record off the court... that's incredible.

This is a subjective assessment of LeBron's career management and legacy.
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#PMT-2017-0717-4528
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Lonzo Ball playing well in Summer League means the Showtime Lakers are back

The Lakers are back. Oh! The Lake Show is back. So Lonzo Ball's been playing pretty well in the Summer League, and so that can only mean one thing, and that's the Showtime Lakers are back.

The Lakers were not 'back' immediately; they missed the playoffs in 2017-18 and 2018-19, only returning to prominence after signing LeBron James.
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Take Slip·Jul 7, 2017
#PMT-2017-0707-2036
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You can't make Boston racism jokes about Gordon Hayward if he's coming from Utah

One first hot seat is people making Boston racism jokes and saying that Gordon [Hayward] went to Boston because he liked... casual racism. Guess what? You can't say that if he goes from Utah. Doesn't work that way.

The joke relies on the subjective cultural reputations of the two cities.
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Take Slip·Jul 7, 2017
#PMT-2017-0707-2037
Big CatBig Cat

Carmelo Anthony's 2 AM workout videos are laughable

Carmelo Anthony was working out over July 4th... it was so laughable that his own team actually laughed at it. I don't know if you saw that clip. No, there was a clip of the Knicks front office sitting at a summer league game watching the clip of Carmelo Anthony working out all laughing at him.

The Knicks front office was indeed caught on camera laughing while Melo's workout videos were discussed.
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Take Slip·Jul 7, 2017
#PMT-2017-0707-2038
Big CatBig Cat

Swaggy P signing is irrelevant to the Warriors' championship chances

The Warriors' odds to win the NBA championship before Swaggy P signed, minus 163. After he signed, minus 163. So Swaggy P is literally irrelevant to the Warriors' chances to win. His wins above replacement is zero.

The Warriors won the 2018 championship, and Swaggy P played a minor role, supporting the 'irrelevant' claim.
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Take Slip·Jul 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0703-5277
Big CatBig Cat

JJ Redick will sign with the Philadelphia 76ers

My first prediction, J.J. Reddick is going to sign with it... Philadelphia 76ers. [He] bought a condo in Brooklyn, and we're connecting dots. We're getting into the realtor information.

JJ Redick did sign with the 76ers shortly after this episode.
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Take Slip·Jul 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0703-5278
Big CatBig Cat

The Bulls will sign Andre Iguodala to a massive contract that will immediately backfire

I predict that Andre Iguodala is going to go to the Chicago Bulls for seven years and $300 billion because his knees are just about to blow up... He's going to play 20 games a season for the next four years, and everyone's going to be like, oh, why are the Bulls not able to sign big guys?

Iguodala re-signed with the Golden State Warriors in July 2017.
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Take Slip·Jun 30, 2017
#PMT-2017-0630-5639
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Phil Jackson's master plan was to get paid for screwing up the Knicks

Phil's master plan was to get paid for screwing up a franchise and he's getting paid. He's just like [fucking] the ground, having a good time, getting paid for it. He played James Dolan like a fiddle.

Jackson was fired with two years left on his $60 million contract, effectively getting paid a massive sum not to work for the team.
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Take Slip·Jun 30, 2017
#PMT-2017-0630-5640
Big CatBig Cat

Chris Paul hated Doc Rivers because of the preferential treatment given to Austin Rivers

Chris Paul hated Doc Rivers ever since he brought Austin Rivers on and basically didn't yell at Austin Rivers and treated him exactly like his child.

Reports at the time from ESPN and others heavily suggested that the relationship between CP3 and Doc soured due to Doc's handling of his son Austin.
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#PMT-2017-0628-17381
Big CatBig Cat

The Bulls front office vote for Executive of the Year was a self-vote by Gar Foreman

Gar Foreman, he got a single vote for executive of the year. ... I still think it was himself I think it was himself it's like James Harden getting one vote for defensive player of the year yeah survey says it was himself

It's a secret ballot, so it is unverifiable, but fits the 'Fire GarPax' narrative of the era.
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Take Slip·Jun 28, 2017
#PMT-2017-0628-17383
Malik MonkMalik Monk

I can beat a 54-year-old Michael Jordan one-on-one

I mean, I always think of somebody who's a lot older than me. In the 50s, I have a pretty good shot of winning. ... No, I was just saying that because he's pretty older now. I think I have a pretty good shot at it.

The match never happened, but it's a legendary hypothetical that defined Monk's draft entry.
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Take Slip·Jun 28, 2017
#PMT-2017-0628-17385
Malik MonkMalik Monk

I have better shooting range than Steph Curry

My confidence is in the all-time high, so I'm always going to think I have a better range, even though I don't. ... [I've] got better [range]. Period.

Steph Curry is the greatest shooter in NBA history; Malik Monk, while a good shooter, has not surpassed Curry's range or efficiency.
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Take Slip·Jun 28, 2017
#PMT-2017-0628-17387
Malik MonkMalik Monk

My career-high for points in an NBA game will be 59

59? [PFT: 59 points from Malik Monk. That's right in stone.] Yep.

As of 2024, Monk's career high is 45 points (set in 2023).
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#PMT-2017-0626-2154
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Love is the perfect fall guy for LeBron James because he won't talk back

Actually we kind of predicted this, that Kevin Love was going to be the fall guy. Everyone knows you need a fall guy. Chris Carter told everyone, need a fall guy. Kevin Love is the perfect fall guy for LeBron [James] because Kevin Love's never going to say anything. He's not going to subtweet. He's just going to go about his business.

This is a subjective interpretation of team dynamics and media narratives.
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Take Slip·Jun 23, 2017
#PMT-2017-0623-11363
Big CatBig Cat

Bulls front office members Gar Foreman and John Paxson remain fuckheads

Gar Foreman and John Paxson remain fuckheads. [The Bulls] never even began, but yes, it is over. They're dead... You got trainers saying that they're worse than drug dealers. [Paxson], you choked out your coach, Vinny Del Negro, and punched him. Don't tell me that you have morals.

The Bulls front office was widely criticized for this trade and the subsequent failed rebuild, eventually leading to their firing in 2020.
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Take Slip·Jun 23, 2017
#PMT-2017-0623-11364
Big CatBig Cat

Lauri Markkanen is a bum who is soft and sucks

I find out they drafted... Lauri Markkanen from Arizona. I am now going to sell myself on this guy, which is going to be the greatest spin zone of all time, because we went to the Pac-12 championship game, and I think we said multiple times, this guy fucking sucks. He's a bum. He's soft.

Lauri Markkanen went on to be an All-Star and won Most Improved Player in 2023, proving he does not 'suck.'
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