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#PMT-2024-0812-16193
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Secretariat was definitely on steroids

I'm gonna take Secretariat. Some would say the the greatest athlete of all time. But its heart was like three times too big. We've documented that tirelessly on this show. Secretariat definitely on steroids. Randy Moss, white, Randy Moss agreed. Chances are very, very high.

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Secretariat's large heart was attributed to the 'X-factor' gene in an autopsy, not steroids, though the claim is a show staple.
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Take Slip·May 3, 2024
#PMT-2024-0503-9618
Randy MossRandy Moss

Forever Young has travel and track concerns heading into the Derby

Forever Young is the most accomplished Japanese horse that's ever come over here... but I've got two concerns... the travel bothered him... the other thing, the trainer seems to be borderline obsessive about keeping this horse out of this kickback spray in his face.

Forever Young actually ran very well, finishing 3rd in a photo finish, suggesting the travel concerns were minimal.
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Take Slip·May 24, 2023
#PMT-2023-0524-1691
Daniel RicciardoDaniel Ricciardo

Red Bull is my family and where I truly belong in F1

Now going back like full circle to Red Bull... it's like, oh, like, yeah, this is, this is the family. Like this is where, you know, I, I'm happy to come home to and where I feel like I truly belong.

This is a personal feeling about his career path.
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Take Slip·Apr 3, 2023
#PMT-2023-0403-6344
Bobby HurleyBobby Hurley

Flight Line is the best horse I have ever seen

That horse was amazing. Flight Line. Yeah. He might probably the best horse I've ever seen, ever.

Flight Line retired undefeated and is historically ranked among the greatest ever, making this a consensus expert opinion.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2023
#PMT-2023-0217-3470
Big CatBig Cat

The Daytona 500 is the most prestigious and important race in NASCAR

Daytona 500 is considered the most prestigious and important race in NASCAR and has opened the NASCAR season every February since 1982.

The Daytona 500 is widely regarded as the 'Super Bowl of NASCAR' and its most important event.
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Take Slip·Aug 26, 2022
#PMT-2022-0826-14223
Big CatBig Cat

McLaren is dead to me for dumping Daniel Ricciardo

Danny Ricciardo got dumped by McLaren. McLaren is dead to me now. I hate them. I always hated them, but now I really hate them. Kind of fucked up.

This is a personal subjective opinion on his fandom.
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Take Slip·Jul 18, 2022
#PMT-2022-0718-15914
Frankie MunizFrankie Muniz

IndyCar has a better pool of drivers than Formula 1 because of car parity

I would say the best series of drivers, in my opinion, and this might get me in trouble, is IndyCar. Because there's 24 guys who race every week and all 24 of them could win... Where in Formula 1, it really is contingent upon what car you're in.

The relative skill of drivers across different disciplines is an ongoing debate and cannot be definitively proven.
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Take Slip·May 9, 2022
#PMT-2022-0509-6248
Big CatBig Cat

Rich Strike should be retired immediately following the Kentucky Derby win

If I was Rich Strike's owner right now, you just gotta retire this horse. You gotta be like, I'm going out on top. It should just be put out to stud for the rest of its career. Never let it raise again because you're never going to reach—Rich Strike is not going to become the new Secretariat.

Rich Strike did not retire; he continued racing but never won another race, finishing his career with a string of losses before retiring in 2023.
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Take Slip·May 9, 2022
#PMT-2022-0509-6250
Big CatBig Cat

Rich Strike's 80-1 win saves the sport of horse racing

Wouldn't it be perfect if you have an 80 to one a shot that like everyone's going to look at and be like $30,000, we could have bought this horse. I guarantee everyone was saying that after. I think they're gonna, if there is something wrong here, they're just going to sweep it under the rug because it's the greatest story ever. So it's going to save horse racing this year.

A single race outcome's ability to 'save' a sport is inherently subjective.
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Take Slip·Sep 17, 2021
#PMT-2021-0917-14375
Big CatBig Cat

Max Verstappen was at fault for the crash with Lewis Hamilton at Monza

Max's car is literally on Lewis's head, and he just walked away... I said Max is a jerk... Max obviously drives to the edge... I would say my rule of thumb is nine times out of 10. If you drive over another guy's head, it's probably your fault.

F1 stewards officially ruled Verstappen was 'predominantly to blame' for the incident and handed him a three-place grid penalty for the next race.
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Take Slip·Aug 2, 2021
#PMT-2021-0802-5335
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mercedes' current F1 strategy is intentionally taking out Red Bull at every turn

Mercedes, essentially their strategy now is just take out Red Bull at all times, which is sick. And then yeah, Lewis Hamilton, Sir Lewis Hamilton is the goat.

This is a satirical take on the crash incidents in the 2021 season; there is no factual evidence it was a deliberate team strategy.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2021
#PMT-2021-0719-454
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Max Verstappen is currently the best driver in the world

He's [Max Verstappen] the best in the sport right now. All time salty Instagram post after... but right now he's number one... Max Verstappen is the best racecar driver right the second.

Verstappen went on to win the 2021 World Championship, though in controversial fashion.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2021
#PMT-2021-0719-455
Big CatBig Cat

The crash between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen was just a 'racing incident'

I actually took Lewis Hamilton's side. I thought that he—Robbins racing. They call it a racing incident... Like a bang-bang targeting call that isn't targeting... football incident. Let's keep playing. My whole thing is, I can't get up for the F1 races.

F1 stewards actually gave Hamilton a 10-second penalty for the incident, but many fans and analysts still debated if it was just a typical racing clash.
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#PMT-2021-0716-17643
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

F1 is a game where you have to outspend your competitors to win

My fire Fest is I downloaded the F1 game on my phone and I've spent $140 upgrading my car in the last two weeks... you gotta have the most money if you want to win. Right. Exactly. So I think I'm going to outspend the competitors.

In mobile gaming and real F1, financial resources are widely recognized as a primary driver of performance.
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Take Slip·May 21, 2021
#PMT-2021-0521-4644
Christian HornerChristian Horner

F1 teammates in Europe generally hate each other because they are each other's biggest career threat

Call a teammate in Europe, they fucking hate each other. Because it's the one guy that's going to kill his career. So they play team, but the reality is they both want to beat each other.

This is a subjective claim from a team principal with decades of experience; it's considered an industry standard view in F1.
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Take Slip·May 21, 2021
#PMT-2021-0521-4645
Christian HornerChristian Horner

Formula One needs a star American driver for the sport to truly take off in the US

That's what the U.S. need. We've got to get a decent American driver running in Formula One. And as soon as that happens, I think the US will just take off even more.

The sport did take off significantly due to 'Drive to Survive', even without a major American driver on the podium, but Horner's point about a US star remains a central goal of Liberty Media.
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Take Slip·May 14, 2021
#PMT-2021-0514-5085
Randy MossRandy Moss

Jockey changes among elite riders make zero difference in major races

When you're betting and you get into a race like the Kentucky Derby or the Preakness, the jockeys involved are all so good and so competent that the difference between jockey A and jockey B, jockey B and jockey C is negligible... just ignore the rider and focus on the abilities of the horse.

This is a fundamental handicapping philosophy that can't be objectively proven 'right' or 'wrong' but is a professional stance.
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Take Slip·Apr 30, 2021
#PMT-2021-0430-9868
Randy MossRandy Moss

Bob Baffert is the most successful horse trainer of all time

When Bob retires, I think he's in his late 60s, but he's going strong. He'll be the most successful horse trainer of all time.

Baffert holds the record for most Triple Crown race wins, though his legacy has been complicated by drug violations.
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Take Slip·Apr 30, 2021
#PMT-2021-0430-9869
Randy MossRandy Moss

The #1 post position at the Kentucky Derby is not a disadvantage

There's this bs out there that's been out there for years that the number one post position is this horrible disadvantage and it's not... the advantage of saving ground being on the inside around the turns makes the horse run better than his odds would indicate.

Known Agenda, who ran from the #1 hole in 2021, finished 9th.
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Take Slip·Feb 5, 2021
#PMT-2021-0205-4176
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Secretariat is the greatest of all time

Secretariat. Well, exactly. Secretariat. It's got to be. American Pharaoh. It has to be Secretariat.

The 'GOAT' debate is inherently subjective.
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#PMT-2020-0219-5104
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ryan Newman surviving his Daytona crash is a testament to NASCAR's safety improvements

The fact that he was able to survive that wreck with serious injuries, but the fact that he's still alive is just incredible and it's honestly like a testament to what NASCAR has done since Dale Earnhardt passed away at the Daytona 500 20 years ago.

Newman walked out of the hospital days later, which experts widely attributed to the safety advancements mandated by NASCAR.
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Take Slip·Nov 27, 2019
#PMT-2019-1127-17040
Danica PatrickDanica Patrick

Being a NASCAR driver is harder than being a podcaster

Oh, it's definitely harder to be a NASCAR driver... What is our physical risk right now?

Subjective, though physically and safety-wise, NASCAR is objectively more dangerous.
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Take Slip·Jun 28, 2019
#PMT-2019-0628-14218
Dale Earnhardt JrDale Earnhardt Jr

NASCAR crew chiefs must bend or break the rules to be successful

If you take a car that's legal from front to back, completely legal through the rule book, you're not going to run very well. You're not going to do well. And the crew chiefs, the crew chief that I want, the team that I want, are the ones that are willing to gamble and be aggressive with the rules, bend the rules, maybe break a few rules, because I know that that's what I'm competing against.

This aligns with common knowledge in motorsports about finding 'grey areas'.
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#PMT-2019-0508-5685
Big CatBig Cat

Country House skipping the Preakness is a smart move to protect his legacy

If I'm country house, if I'm that horse, I'd probably do the exact same thing. Because you're never going to top that. You are going out completely at the top of your game. You're a Kentucky Derby winner. And why would you ever try to follow that up?

Country House never raced again after the 2019 Derby due to various ailments, effectively ending his career at the peak as predicted.
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#PMT-2019-0506-6933
Big CatBig Cat

Maximum Security's disqualification from the Kentucky Derby was 100% the correct call

The actual change from Maximum Security getting kicked out of the race at the end, that was the correct call. 100%. You can't just drift in front of other horses. You have to give them a path.

Maximum Security was disqualified for interference, and despite appeals, the decision was upheld by racing commissions and courts.
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Take Slip·May 3, 2019
#PMT-2019-0503-10871
Randy MossRandy Moss

Maximum Security's Florida Derby win was 'phony' because he wasn't pressured

Let's make Maximum Security into the villain... there should be kind of an asterisk by his last win in the Florida Derby because the competition in that race just basically handed him the race... Everybody else just decided to take back, and all of a sudden this horse is just cruising.

Maximum Security finished first in the Kentucky Derby but was famously disqualified for interference, making the 'villain/asterisk' label quite prophetic.
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Take Slip·Feb 20, 2019
#PMT-2019-0220-5161
Denny HamlinDenny Hamlin

Fights are good for NASCAR and the league secretly loves them

Is it good for the sport? Absolutely. They secretly are high-fiving. You know, you don't want anyone to get hurt. They'll put out there that, you know, we don't like it. No way. It's like Dana White. They love it. Gets eyeballs.

NASCAR's marketing frequently uses footage of fights, supporting the idea that they value the drama and viewership they bring.
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Take Slip·Jun 8, 2018
#PMT-2018-0608-8557
Randy MossRandy Moss

Justify may be running low on energy heading into the Belmont Stakes

In the Preakness, he wasn't quite as good as he was in the Kentucky Derby... Energy level might be getting a little bit low. He really needed that wire to come up when it did in the Preakness... How much he's got left in the tank is the big question.

Justify won the Belmont Stakes to secure the Triple Crown, proving he had enough in the tank.
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Take Slip·Jun 8, 2018
#PMT-2018-0608-8559
Randy MossRandy Moss

Gronkowski the horse does not have much of a chance in the Belmont Stakes

We talked to the trainer, and he doesn't even know what to expect... It's like he's been going up against Class A pitching, and now he's got to go against the Yankees. So you have no idea what to expect. Big, nice, good-looking horse. I don't think he has much of a chance.

Gronkowski actually finished a surprising 2nd in the Belmont Stakes, nearly pulling off the upset.
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Take Slip·May 4, 2018
#PMT-2018-0504-6552
Randy MossRandy Moss

The Curse of Apollo in the Kentucky Derby is absolute BS

To be honest with you, 2018, it's absolute BS. It should have gone up in flames six years ago with a horse named Bodie Meister... now this year there are two horses, Justify... and Magnum Moon... it matters not even a little bit.

Justify won the 2018 Kentucky Derby, becoming the first horse since 1882 to win without racing as a two-year-old, effectively ending the curse.
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#PMT-2016-0801-14621
Big CatBig Cat

Nyquist the horse is officially finished

I'm going to say that Nyquist is finished. That horse is done. He's so finished that he's done.

Nyquist never won another race after the Kentucky Derby, eventually retiring later in 2016 due to injury.
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#PMT-2016-0523-7033
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dying as a champion racehorse is better than living as an old-timer in a pasture

I would say that that's more of a hurt [than an injury] because if you die a legend like that after winning a race, your legacy lives on longer than anybody else... You don't remember him as some old-timer getting jerked off in a pasture somewhere.

This is a philosophical, satirical opinion about horse legacy.
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Take Slip·May 20, 2016
#PMT-2016-0520-14089
Randy MossRandy Moss

American Pharoah was more talented than Nyquist

American Pharoah was a brilliant kind of horse... American Pharoah [was] like a wild horse. Nyquist is sort of like the consummate professional... I think at this point, I would take American Pharoah. I think he has more overall talent than Nyquist.

American Pharoah is a Triple Crown winner and widely considered a generational great; Nyquist did not win another Triple Crown race after the Derby.