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Take Slip·Jun 9, 2025
#PMT-2025-0609-6983
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Connor McDavid is the greatest hockey player of all time

I just started running around the room... running around greatest hockey player of all time. I just started tweeting that like, it's just, it's incredible to watch him.

Subjective, though many analytics support the claim that McDavid is the most skilled player ever even if he lacks Gretzky's total points.
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Take Slip·May 16, 2025
#PMT-2025-0516-935
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Alex Ovechkin should not have been on the power play during Game 5

Ovy did not look well on the ice tonight. He looked pretty slow... I almost think that he shouldn't even be on the power play right now. Because he wasn't, he did not look like he was moving around like the Ovy that we saw in the regular season.

The Capitals were swept by the Rangers (the transcript mentions 'Hurricanes' but they actually played the Rangers in 2024; Whisper error likely). Ovechkin was held scoreless for the entire series.
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Take Slip·May 5, 2025
#PMT-2025-0505-19332
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Carolina cannot win the Cup because Sebastian Aho is not a true superstar

Carolina fans are kind of all always all over biz. And I, and I gave them a bunch of props... and all those fans tell me aho aho I'm like, I love aho. But I just, he's like one little notch beneath like the true superstars. And, and so I don't, I don't even think if Carolina gets by Washington, like they can win the cup.

Correctness depends on whether the Hurricanes win the Cup in this scenario.
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Take Slip·May 2, 2025
#PMT-2025-0502-12383
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Capitals are going to 'skull fuck' Paul Bissonnette and the Maple Leafs in the Eastern Conference Finals

Paul Bissonnette, you better hope that you get your ass kicked in the second round because I wouldn't like nothing better than the skull fuck you in the Eastern Conference finals. And I will, I will skull fuck you. Tom Wilson will skull fuck you.

The Capitals were swept by the Rangers in the first round of the 2024 playoffs, making this impossible.
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Take Slip·Apr 11, 2025
#PMT-2025-0411-2080
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

International hockey tournaments like the Olympics are not legitimate without Russia involved

The worst part about four nations and the Olympics next year. Do you guys know? No, it's no Russia. Oh. So nothing is really that legit because best on, best on best hockey? Like you need Russia involved. It's just, you know what I mean?

This is a subjective take on the 'legitimacy' of a sports trophy based on the field of competition.
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Take Slip·Apr 11, 2025
#PMT-2025-0411-2087
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Leon Draisaitl is more valuable to the Oilers than Connor McDavid this year

I'm an Oilers guy and Leon Draisaitl has just to me been the best player in the league. The most valuable player of the Oilers McDavid's had this great year still, but not McDavid. And then he's leading the league in goals by a lot.

The Hart Trophy voting results will show if the league voters agree, but 'value' is ultimately subjective.
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Take Slip·Feb 21, 2025
#PMT-2025-0221-14000
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Auston Matthews has become 'too Canadian' and that is why the US lost the Four Nations tournament

My takeaway from this game is that Austin Matthews has become too Canadian. And that's why we lost the game. Because he's a Maple Leaf and Maple Leafs never win anything. And we saw that.

Hot TakeHockeyHotSarcastic
The US did lose the Four Nations final to Canada in February 2025. Whether it was due to Matthews being 'too Canadian' is purely subjective/satirical.
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Take Slip·May 20, 2024
#PMT-2024-0520-18053
Big CatBig Cat

Connor McDavid 'can't win the big one' until he proves otherwise

Has Conor McDavid [won a title]? I think we won. No, he has not. Okay. Alright. So there, the discussion... we have to, as our job say, he can't win the big one... He won the big one and now he's the guy that can win the big one.

Hot TakeHockeyHotSarcastic
McDavid and the Oilers reached Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final in 2024 but lost to the Panthers, so as of this episode's immediate follow-up, he still has not won 'the big one'.
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Take Slip·Apr 22, 2024
#PMT-2024-0422-4981
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Capitals would have won Game 1 if they could remove any three minutes of play

If you take out like three minutes in the second period, we actually tied this game. One. One. ... If you take out that 10 seconds and the two and a half minutes in the second period, the caps actually won. This game one nothing in a series where nobody thought that we could come within three goals of beating the Rangers.

Hot TakeHockeyFireSarcastic
This is a logical fallacy and cannot be factually correct.
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#PMT-2024-0315-13064
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Penguins faked the bobblehead truck hijacking because they forgot to order them

I don't think the bobbleheads existed. I think maybe I, I think that maybe there were no bobbleheads and the Penguins were like, fuck it's bobblehead night. We forgot to order these things... It's Jussie Smollett. It's Jussie Smollett bobblehead night. And they're like, well we don't have, oh yeah, the cops, we called the cops. They're looking into it right now.

The bobbleheads were actually stolen; the Penguins later recovered them and distributed them at a later date. This was a comedic/satirical take.
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Take Slip·Jan 10, 2024
#PMT-2024-0110-10490
MaxMax

Cutter Gauthier is a 'pussy' for refusing to play for the Flyers

That guy's a cutter's a pussy. That's a, that's a fact. Because... he told Philly that he wanted to play for Philly and then change his mind two months later.

This is a purely subjective insult based on sports fandom.
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#PMT-2023-1115-6583
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Connor McDavid is a 'coach killer'

Is Connor McDavid a coach killer? Big Cat, 'cause this is coach number four I think for him... I'm gonna say that he's a coach killer. Just because it's fun and I have no idea if it's true or not, but it's always good to just slap that label on a really good player.

Edmonton did change coaches frequently during McDavid's tenure, though team success followed this specific change.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2023
#PMT-2023-0510-11448
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl are the best duo since Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen

I say he's Pippen and Jordan, I say the best duo since Pippen and Jordan. Wow. They're gonna, I think they're gonna win win a championship.

This is a subjective comparison between athletes in different sports.
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Take Slip·May 8, 2023
#PMT-2023-0508-910
Big CatBig Cat

The Maple Leafs' round one series win doesn't count if they get swept in the second round

Do we count the Leafs getting into the second round if they don't win a game? I don't think it counts. If they don't win a single game in the second round, I don't think they got to the second round.

Hot TakeHockeyMediumSarcastic
The Leafs lost the series 4-1 to the Panthers. They avoided the sweep, so by Big Cat's logic, it 'counts.'
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Take Slip·Apr 17, 2023
#PMT-2023-0417-6710
Big CatBig Cat

If Connor McDavid doesn't win the Stanley Cup this year, he is a 'bum'

My big bet is gonna be on the Oilers... because I'm sick of you telling me how Connor McDavid's the best athlete in all of sports... this is a personal one-on-one legacy match... If he doesn't win the cup this year, he is a bum.

McDavid did not win the Cup in 2023. While calling him a 'bum' is obviously sarcastic hyperbole, the 'incorrect' label applies to the literal prediction of a Cup win.
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#PMT-2022-0629-16250
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NHL beat writer who celebrated with the Stanley Cup should be fired for a lack of integrity

There was a Colorado Avalanche beat writer that picked up the Stanley Cup and celebrated with the team and called it one of the best nights of his life. And frankly he should be executed. Yeah. Send him to the LIV tour. They should chop his head off. That's not what journalism is supposed to be in America. It's supposed to be fearless truth tellers, impartial scribes.

The take is a satirical value judgment on journalistic ethics; the writer (Mike Chambers) was indeed criticized but the 'execution' part is obviously a joke.
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Take Slip·Jun 17, 2022
#PMT-2022-0617-9856
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Lightning are the worst back-to-back champions of all time

The idea that the, the lightning might be the worst back-to-back champions of all time. If you look at the bubble when put an asterix on that, and then you look at them playing like maybe one of the worst Stanley cup champion or say like a finals teams in recent memory, like last 30 years and the Canadians, and now they finally run into a wagon in the Stanley cup finals.

This is a highly subjective and controversial take; winning back-to-back is difficult regardless of the opponent or venue.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2022
#PMT-2022-0511-13219
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NHL is potentially rigged for certain ratings-friendly matchups

The whole debate that we were having last night about the NHL being rigged? Because I think that you're insane for not thinking... the NHL would prefer to have caps first penguins. One last showdown between [Ovechkin and Crosby].

Hot TakeHockeyHotSarcastic
There is no evidence the NHL is rigged, and the Caps/Pens matchup PFT wanted didn't even happen in the 2022 playoffs.
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Take Slip·Feb 16, 2022
#PMT-2022-0216-1510
TJ WattTJ Watt

I could last a two-minute shift in the NHL and score a goal by crashing the net

If we threw you out there, could you last a shift in the NHL? It's like two minutes, right? Yeah. I think I got that. I mean, yeah. I mean, for fighting for 30 seconds of this shift... maybe just crash the net, just get in front of them that, yeah. Push the goalie around and see, who's got the goalies back. It's a playoff goal.

While Watt is an elite athlete, the skill gap between an NFL player and an NHL player is massive; this is likely physically impossible but fun to debate.
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Take Slip·Oct 20, 2021
#PMT-2021-1020-14494
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

The Maple Leafs will finally get over the playoff hump this year

I'm confident that they're going to be able to get over that edge this year... I've doubled down on my four skin challenge where I'm going to double down and you can chop my whole cock off and keep it if that fucking team can't make [a run].

Hot TakeHockeyScorchingSarcastic
The Leafs lost in the first round to the Lightning in 2022. They didn't win a series until 2023.
Void
Take Slip·Jun 28, 2021
#PMT-2021-0628-4282
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Montreal Canadiens are officially America's team

I think the Canadiens are now officially America's team. It feels like it's coming home. Is it coming home? It's coming home. It's coming home for the Canadiens.

This is a satirical claim; the Canadiens are fundamentally Canadian. However, they were the favorite of neutral observers.
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Take Slip·Jun 14, 2021
#PMT-2021-0614-7109
Big CatBig Cat

The Colorado Avalanche were the greatest team to never win a Stanley Cup

The Avalanche were the greatest team to never win a Stanley Cup. Yep. I like that. I mean, lamed out... we were told the Avalanche were just going to shit-pump everybody.

Hot TakeHockeyHotSarcastic
Hyperbolic claim. The Avalanche won the Cup the very next year (2022).
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Take Slip·Jun 4, 2021
#PMT-2021-0604-2903
Big CatBig Cat

The NHL should suspend players for dirty hits but allow them back for one 'grudge' game

I think they should do this more often... suspend him for enough games where he can come back and then everyone can tune in to watch him have fights all night. I think the rule should be if you get suspended for a dirty hit in the playoffs, you should be forced to start the next game, skate one shift, and then after that point, your suspension begins.

This is a satirical rule suggestion.
Loss
#PMT-2021-0517-6505
Big CatBig Cat

If you cannot fly, you do not count as a bird.

I know it's technically a bird, but if you can't fly, you're not a bird... That'd be like pointing at a bus and being like, look at that airplane. Just call penguins what they are. They're buses.

Biologically, penguins and ostriches are birds, regardless of flight status.
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#PMT-2020-0807-17892
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tom Wilson isn't a scumbag; he's just misunderstood and people are afraid to look him in the eye

My fire Fest of the week is I have to come up with new reasons and new ways to defend Tom Wilson. No, he's not scumbag... I need a workshop a few ways. People are saying that Tom Wilson's running into people's backs... I don't think that that's the case at all. The best I could come up with at this point is that people afraid of Tom Wilson they're afraid to make eye contact with him.

The take is satirical and about personal bias.
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Take Slip·Jun 5, 2020
#PMT-2020-0605-7247
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Hockey is not one of the major four sports

No hockey doesn't count hockey doesn't count. Not one of the major four sports. What's the fourth? MLS?

This is a subjective classification of sports relevance, though the 'Big Four' traditionally includes the NHL.
Void
Take Slip·Feb 7, 2020
#PMT-2020-0207-5732
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Alex Ovechkin will officially be better than Wayne Gretzky after he scores his 700th goal

And Ovi just scored his 700th goal. ... I'm predicting. I'm going to be at the Caps game on Saturday night. I'm going to see him score two more goals. And then it's going to happen. Now he's officially better than Wayne Gretzky. Perfect.

Ovechkin reached 700 goals on Feb 22, 2020 (shortly after this episode). Whether he is better than Gretzky remains the most debated topic in hockey history.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2019
#PMT-2019-0510-625
Big CatBig Cat

If the Hurricanes lose their playoff series, Big Cat will track down and kill Hamilton the Pig.

If the hurricanes lose, I'm going to try to track down the pig and kill it... I'll kill a pig. Let's do bacon until it dies of a heart attack.

The Hurricanes lost (swept by the Bruins), but Big Cat did not actually kill the pig.
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Take Slip·May 3, 2019
#PMT-2019-0503-10867
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

NBA players and fans are soft for cheering an injury comeback that NHL players do routinely

I saw that asshole from the Cavs [Kevin Love]... broke his nose and came back with a fucking mask on and got a standing ovation. Are you shitting me? Ryan Malone on Pittsburgh... got a slap shot directly in the face... shoved a couple tampons out there and came back, no mask, no standing ovation for him.

The anecdote about Ryan Malone is true, and Kevin Love did return with a mask. The 'toughness' comparison is a matter of opinion.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2019
#PMT-2019-0415-18234
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Washington Capitals killed the Eastern Conference

Did the Washington Capitals kill the Eastern Conference? Not just the Penguins, who, by the way, they haven't won a game in the playoffs since the Caps beat them... Nor have the Tampa Bay Lightning.

The Lightning were famously swept by Columbus in 2019 despite a record-breaking regular season. The Penguins were also swept by the Islanders.
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Take Slip·Mar 25, 2019
#PMT-2019-0325-2414
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

Fighting is dead in hockey because social justice warriors have taken over and influenced the league

Fighting is dead in hockey... all these social justice warriors have kind of taken over and directed the league in a certain way. I feel bad for league officials... because it's just a constant barrage of people bitching about everything.

While fighting has statistically declined, the causes are a mix of player safety, speed, and analytics, making the 'SJW' cause a subjective interpretation.
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Take Slip·Feb 27, 2019
#PMT-2019-0227-709
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Patrick Kane is the greatest American-born hockey player ever

Kane, holy shit, he keeps getting better. It's the best I think it's the best he's ever been. It's just he's the best American-born player ever. That's my hot take of the day.

Kane holds many scoring records for American-born players and has three Cups, making him a lead candidate in this subjective debate.
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#PMT-2018-0727-15183
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Washington Capitals run was a dynasty

The Washington Capitals. So the Caps year wins year of the year. Truly a magical run. A dynasty. Maybe the best hockey team of all time ever assembled. Great coaching, great executing, great fans.

Hot TakeHockeyHotSarcastic
The Capitals won only one Stanley Cup (2018) in that era, which does not meet the standard definition of a sports dynasty.
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Take Slip·Jun 8, 2018
#PMT-2018-0608-8548
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Washington Capitals dynasty has already begun

The dynasty has already begun.

The Capitals did not win another Stanley Cup in the following seasons, failing to form a dynasty.
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Take Slip·May 18, 2018
#PMT-2018-0518-8843
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The CHL Fortnite addiction story is a hoax created by an old-school GM

I'm a little bit woke on this... I'm a little bit woke that some grumpy Canadian GM was like, all these kids are playing their video games all the time, so we're going to make up a scare and make up a player and say that he's not going to make it.

The story remained anonymous and was heavily debated as a potential urban legend in hockey circles, with no specific player ever being officially outed as the 'Fortnite bust.'
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Take Slip·May 2, 2018
#PMT-2018-0502-15811
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Matt Murray sucks and his glove hand is a liability

Murray sucks. Murray sucks on ice. His glove hand stinks. And his glove leg sucks too. I think he had a stroke. I think the left side of his body has been paralyzed.

The Penguins lost the series in 6 games, and Murray's performance was criticized throughout that postseason compared to his previous Cup runs.
Win
Take Slip·Apr 25, 2018
#PMT-2018-0425-9653
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Washington Capitals are better this year because they are actually worse than last year

The Washington Capitals, they are better this year because they're actually worse than they were last year, okay? ... The fact that the Capitals are not as good, they're not as deep... It means that they're winning ugly is what I'm getting at. ... we've tried being by far the best team talent-wise. That hasn't worked. So let's give it a shot being a little bit shittier than them.

Incredibly, the 2018 Capitals finally beat the Penguins and won their first Stanley Cup this season, proving PFT's bizarre logic correct in outcome.
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#PMT-2018-0223-6217
Big CatBig Cat

US Women's Hockey beating Canada is more meaningful because hockey is all they have

It just feels good to beat Canada because you know in hockey, that's all they have. It bothers them a lot. And Canadians can't get bothered... We know you're bothered. We know you're triggered right now.

Hockey is indeed a primary cultural touchstone in Canada, and the loss in a gold medal shootout was significant.
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Take Slip·Jun 12, 2017
#PMT-2017-0612-13524
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The U.S. government should use being a hockey fan as an interrogation technique for terrorists

The United States government should make one of their new enhanced interrogation techniques for terrorists. Just make the terrorists become a hockey fan. Watch three overtimes. And then have to watch playoff games until their team loses in the Stanley Cup Finals.

This is a subjective, satirical comparison that cannot be factually proven.
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Take Slip·Jun 9, 2017
#PMT-2017-0609-14603
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sidney Crosby is the biggest thug in hockey

Is Sidney Crosby the biggest thug in hockey? He did two things tonight... He dribbled P.K. Subban's face off the ice like it was Deron Williams just dribbling out of bounds... And he threw a water bottle onto the ice during play. Wow. Dangerous.

Hot TakeHockeyHotSarcastic
Sidney Crosby is widely considered one of the greatest and most skilled players ever, not a 'thug', though he has had moments of grit and frustration.
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Take Slip·Jun 5, 2017
#PMT-2017-0605-18208
Big CatBig Cat

The NHL needs another Sidney Crosby concussion to get back into the limelight

I'll tell you what we need. We need a Sidney Crosby concussion. That always gets the NHL into the limelight. Just another one of those. Even if he's not concussed, just say, yeah, he's concussed and he's actually going to skate tomorrow.

This is a satirical suggestion for media coverage, not a factual prediction.
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Take Slip·Jun 2, 2017
#PMT-2017-0602-16924
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Every player on the Pittsburgh Penguins is using steroids

The Penguins did their – I think everybody on the Penguins is using steroids. I'm going to put it out there. You know what? I think that's the only explanation. They're really good in game sevens when the other team is always super tired. I'm putting it out there. Cheaters, all of them.

Hot TakeHockeyFireSarcastic
There is no evidence of a team-wide steroid program for the Penguins.
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Take Slip·May 5, 2017
#PMT-2017-0505-19683
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 'Crosby Theory': A team gets better after losing its best player

I think it's fair to ask now if the Penguins are better without Sidney Crosby... If you lose your best player, but your team gets better, the Crosby theory.

Sidney Crosby is one of the greatest players of all time; the Penguins were objectively not better without him, though they did win games in his absence.
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Take Slip·May 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0503-5413
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sidney Crosby was only injured because the Penguins lack an enforcer

The real issue is Sidney Crosby only got hit in his head like that because there's not as much fighting in hockey as there used to be... the Penguins, they're too big of pussies. And they have no enforcer, so they are the ones that got Sidney Crosby injured.

The league has moved away from enforcers, and there is no evidence that an enforcer prevents high-speed collisions or concussion-related hits.
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Take Slip·Nov 2, 2016
#PMT-2016-1102-13868
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

LeBron James would be the best hockey player ever but would never play due to minor injuries

LeBron would be the best hockey player of all time... [but] he wouldn't play in one because in the preseason he'd probably get like an elbow bruise. Like, you know when you, like, hurt your bursitis in your elbow?

This is a subjective comparison of athletic potential and toughness that can't be proven.
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#PMT-2016-1014-6737
Big CatBig Cat

Auston Matthews' 4-goal debut is suspicious and requires a 'witch hunt'

Austin Matthews... He had three goals on his first three shots in the NHL. He actually had four goals on the night in his debut... Hmm. Interesting. Maybe a frozen envelope... I'm just saying maybe these bullies just, hey, yo, we'll let Austin.

Hot TakeHockeyHotSarcastic
Matthews is just a generational talent; it was not a fix.
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#PMT-2016-0923-10926
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The US should invade Canada for their hockey players

Just invade Canada already... I'm sick of America being nice. Where's that gotten us? We haven't won a Hockey World Cup ever... Just do it just for the sports. Or just be a really bad neighbor... Let's shade all of Canada and then we own it.

This is a satirical political/sports proposal.
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#PMT-2016-0715-3599
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Hockey helmets have increased concussions because they evolved the human skull to be thinner

I actually think that helmets have done more to increase concussions in hockey than they've done to help because it's like evolution. It kicks in a little bit and your brain, your skull doesn't have to be as thick anymore. Like the way that we coddle these athletes, it's actually hurting them in the long term.

Evolution of the human skull does not occur over the span of a few decades of helmet usage in sports.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2016
#PMT-2016-0603-17708
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

I would beat Conor McGregor in a fight if we were both wearing hockey skates

If it was you and Conor McGregor fighting... but you're both wearing hockey skates, who wins? Well man, he's got pretty good balance. I would put my money on myself just because I'm a lot bigger than him.

Hypothetical scenario that cannot be verified.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2016
#PMT-2016-0603-17710
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

The 'glowing puck' ruined the NHL and likely caused the 2004-05 lockout

The glowing puck, did they get rid of that because it was easier to play defense? I think they took the non-hockey followers word too seriously and kind of ruined the game. I really think that's probably why the lockout happened.

Hot TakeHockeyFireSarcastic
The lockout was about the salary cap and labor issues, not the FoxTrax puck which ended years earlier.
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