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#PMT-2018-0221-8014
Big CatBig Cat

Kobe Bryant is the real GOAT because he doesn't need a debate partner

LeBron versus MJ is the GOAT debate... that means that LeBron and MJ need each other to be a part of the goat discussion... which means Kobe's the goat. Kobe doesn't need LeBron or MJ to be considered a goat debate. They're just Kobe. He'd debate against himself. Kobe 8 versus Kobe 24.

Purely a subjective and comedic debate stance.
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Take Slip·Feb 16, 2018
#PMT-2018-0216-19259
Denny HamlinDenny Hamlin

LeBron James is a better all-around player than Michael Jordan, but I trust Jordan more at the end of a game

I will say LeBron is better all around, but I trust Michael at the end of the game.

The GOAT debate is inherently subjective.
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Take Slip·Feb 14, 2018
#PMT-2018-0214-2712
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The dumbest argument in sports is saying 'anybody could coach that team' because they have talent

One of the Suns players took a little shot at Steve Kerr on the way out. He's like, I guess it shows that anybody can coach that team. Oh, yeah, I like that. That's the dumbest argument in all of sports. ... They did it with Spoelstra. They still do it with Phil Jackson. ... if you try to get everyone to get along... look at the Cavs this year. These guys don't get along. They don't play well together just because you have the best player.

This is a long-standing debate in sports media. Nichols' position aligns with most professional basketball analysts.
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Take Slip·Feb 14, 2018
#PMT-2018-0214-2716
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

NBA tampering rules are stupid and assume players are too dumb to understand cap space

Tampering, it is stupid that the NBA even has tampering. Everybody tampers in the league. Tampering in general assumes that NBA players are too stupid to understand cap space or that like, oh, if Magic Johnson doesn't tell you, then there's no way that Paul George would possibly know there's clearing cap room for him.

This is an opinion on league policy, but widely shared by those who cover the 'transactional' side of the NBA.
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Take Slip·Feb 9, 2018
#PMT-2018-0209-259
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal would have won six championships if they had stayed together on the Lakers

If those two [Kobe and Shaq] could figure out a way to make it work, they could be a really good duo. They could probably win four in a row... Five, six, yeah. Unlimited. Sky's the limit with those two.

This is a hypothetical situation that can never be proven.
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Take Slip·Feb 7, 2018
#PMT-2018-0207-16875
Zach HarperZach Harper

Russell Westbrook is the new Allen Iverson: an amazing individual player but not a team guy

I think he's going to end up being like kind of the new Iverson. Amazing individual player, great highlights, real fun, but not quite equipped for analytics... because he can't shoot threes. And so there will always be this inefficient tag to him. And he's just more of an individual than a team guy.

Westbrook's legacy continues to be debated in exactly these terms—volume stats vs. efficiency and team success.
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Take Slip·Jan 24, 2018
#PMT-2018-0124-1553
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Love was not actually sick when he left the game against the Thunder

I don't think Kevin Love was sick. I'm going to be the one to say it... I think Kevin Love is maybe like he gets more shit than any other athlete ever. Undeserved shit.

This is a subjective claim about an athlete's physical health during a team drama incident.
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Take Slip·Jan 24, 2018
#PMT-2018-0124-1554
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James' Instagram post to his younger self is the most unintentionally funny thing ever

Every single time you read something [LeBron James] posts, it is like the most unintentionally funny shit that you will ever hear in your life... He invented fourth person. It's him referring to himself, but in the past.

The humor of the post is subjective, though the post itself is legendary in NBA circles for its absurdity.
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#PMT-2018-0117-19272
Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

The tunnel scuffle with the Rockets was just locker room talk and boys being boys

I can't imagine what everybody back in town was thinking when they heard that is what was happening... Continuity error. No, you're right. It was just a boys will be boys situation... Locker room talk. Yeah, exactly.

Griffin is offering a personal perspective on a personal event.
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#PMT-2017-1227-10521
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant has officially eclipsed LeBron James as the best player on the planet

He [Skip Bayless] says that Kevin Durant has now eclipsed LeBron as the best player on the planet, and Fox News tweeted out the torch has been passed... officially KD is the torchbearer, according to Skip Bayless.

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#PMT-2017-1220-7921
Big CatBig Cat

Shaq was the 'Robin' and Kobe was the 'Batman' during their championship runs together

Shaq needed Kobe more than Kobe needed Shaq... Shaq needed the wing scorers to be Shaq. He needed Dwyane Wade to be unbelievable Dwyane Wade. Shaq was Superman, and Kobe was Batman. [But] Batman isn't a superhero... he's just a rich guy with a bunch of gadgets.

This is a subjective hierarchy of two legends; most analysts favor Shaq for the Lakers three-peat as he won all three Finals MVPs.
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#PMT-2017-1129-17851
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James got ejected from a blowout to stat pad and hit the showers early

LeBron got thrown out for the first time in his career for using foul language, complaining about a call in the fourth quarter of a blowout win. Why would he even care at that point? Stat padding? Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark.

The motive for an ejection is inherently subjective, but LeBron's history shows he rarely purposefully gets ejected to avoid playing.
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#PMT-2017-1122-14904
Big CatBig Cat

Kyrie Irving is significantly better than Isaiah Thomas

I think we need to find every single person who thought that the Kyrie trade wasn't good and ban them from ever watching basketball again. Because Kyrie Irving is so fucking good. And all the people that flipped out about Fultz... Kyrie Irving is... he was finishing at the rim in ways that it took my breath away.

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Take Slip·Nov 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-1117-3566
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is currently like a divorced dad with visitation rights to the torch in Oklahoma City

So Kevin Durant did an interview today, and he said that when he hit that three in the NBA Finals, that to him felt like a pass the torch moment. But also in the interview, he says that he's still OKC. So his blood is still Oklahoma City. So the way I'm reading this is that the torch now, it belongs to Kevin Durant, but it resides in Oklahoma City. So Kevin Durant has visitation rights to the torch at his old place. He's like a divorced dad.

This is a subjective interpretation of Durant's interview comments.
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Take Slip·Nov 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-1117-3569
Chad MillmanChad Millman

The WNBA offers the biggest advantage for professional sports bettors

What's the sport with the best advantage for the gambler? [Big Cat asks] It used to be college basketball. It's getting harder and harder. Right now, it's probably the WNBA. Ooh, yeah. It's a huge one for professional bettors. They love it. The bookmakers don't pay that much attention to it, so the wise guys feel like they get an advantage.

This is a well-known sentiment among professional bettors regarding smaller markets, though difficult to 'prove' with a single data point.
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Take Slip·Nov 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-1110-9335
Big CatBig Cat

Players who airball a three-pointer in the NBA should be sent directly to the bench

Jeff Van Gundy had a Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules that I fucking love. If you airball a three-pointer in the NBA, you should have to go directly to the bench. Yeah. I love it. It should just be a penalty box or something.

This is a subjective opinion about a hypothetical rule change.
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Take Slip·Nov 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-1110-9336
Big CatBig Cat

Rudy Gay is the most apathetic star in basketball

There's no one who is as good at basketball but cared less about playing basketball than Rudy Gay. That guy was just so apathetic to who won or lost a game.

This is an unquantifiable opinion on a player's mindset.
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Take Slip·Nov 8, 2017
#PMT-2017-1108-2067
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NBA is officially the emo league

I'd like to just say I'm done with the word petty to describe the NBA. We passed petty like a year and a half ago. I think emo is now the correct answer.

This became a long-running joke/segment descriptor for the NBA on PMT, fitting the league's reputation for drama.
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#PMT-2017-1106-18447
Big CatBig Cat

Dwayne Wade is serving as LeBron James' ventriloquist for callouts

I like what Dwayne Wade's doing because now we see AI, the evolution of technology. LeBron no longer has to subtweet. He can just use Dwayne Wade as a little ventriloquist.

This is a subjective interpretation of team dynamics and media strategy.
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Take Slip·Nov 1, 2017
#PMT-2017-1101-18960
Geno AuriemmaGeno Auriemma

Men's college basketball is more physical than the NBA

Every NBA coach will tell you that men's college basketball is more physical than the NBA... they still let you beat the shit out of each other instead of calling the fouls that they call in the NBA.

This is a frequent point of debate among coaches and analysts; college ball often allows more 'hand-checking' and post-contact than the modern NBA.
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Take Slip·Nov 1, 2017
#PMT-2017-1101-18962
Geno AuriemmaGeno Auriemma

Steph Curry would not be as successful if NBA refs allowed the physicality of college basketball

You think if they let – If they let guys in the NBA handle Steph Curry the way they handle college kids in college, he'd be able to do what he does? Absolutely not.

Subjective, though Curry's skill level likely transcends physicality, as seen in his ability to handle physical playoff defenses.
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Take Slip·Oct 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-1025-11297
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

I would have easily beaten Skip Bayless in a game of one-on-one basketball

[Skip Bayless] is in good shape. But if we're shooting, then I would steal his lunch money. I would have lit up Skip Bayless.

This matchup never happened and likely never will, making it impossible to verify.
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#PMT-2017-1023-7389
Big CatBig Cat

Kyrie Irving telling a fan to 'suck my dick' was worth the $25,000 fine

Kyrie got fined 25,000 that's not that much totally worth it to say suck my dick to fan yes absolutely yeah... Saying suck my dick in Philly is like the nicest thing you can do. That's the Philadelphia hello.

Whether it was 'worth it' is entirely subjective to Kyrie's bank account and personal satisfaction.
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Take Slip·Oct 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-1020-6283
Big CatBig Cat

Any NBA coach who picks up their landline desk phone is a bad coach

I would fire Jason Kidd if I were the Bucks... what coach is at their desk just picking up their phone? Their landline. If you're an NBA coach and you've picked up your landline in the last 10 years, you're a bad coach.

A humorous generalization about coaching productivity.
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Take Slip·Oct 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-1020-6279
Michael RapaportMichael Rapaport

85% of The Ringer's basketball podcasters are 'hipsters' who rely too much on stats

85% of the people that are on the Ringer podcast discussing basketball, they're hipsters. In terms of the stat, stat, stat... I want an eye test. I don't want geometry. Can you play or can you not play?

This is a subjective categorization of a group of media personalities.
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Take Slip·Oct 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-1020-6281
Michael RapaportMichael Rapaport

Tobey Maguire is the worst basketball player I've ever seen

The worst basketball player I've ever seen is Tobey Maguire. That motherfucker. Stick to the poker tables, you nerd.

Purely Rapaport's opinion based on personal experience.
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#PMT-2017-1018-1027
Big CatBig Cat

The Bulls' practice fight is a result of a failure in leadership from John Paxson

This starts from the top. This is leadership from the top. This is John Paxson, who has famously gotten a choking match with Vinny Del Negro... It's a good culture that the Bulls have.

This is a subjective organizational critique, though the 'GarPax' era is widely remembered for its dysfunction.
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Take Slip·Oct 4, 2017·Null
#PMT-2017-1004-15427
Big CatBig Cat

I hate the new NBA All-Star Game captain draft format

They're now making the all-star game where two captains pick the teams, which I fucking hate. I hate when they do this. My brain can't figure it out. I can't figure this shit out when you switch it all, when you swap it all off. They did it with the Pro Bowl, and Pro Bowl's never been the same.

The NBA eventually moved back to East vs. West in 2024 because the draft format lost its luster.
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#PMT-2017-0927-8288
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Beasley knows too much and is officially 'too woke'

Michael Beasley, I'm following him officially in the category of knows too much... We finally figured out 12% is the point where you reach too woke.

Beasley's comments were widely mocked as pseudoscience. Big Cat is leaning into the comedy of it.
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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7857
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

The NBA is better than any other league at staying relevant through drama during the off-season

The best thing about the NBA is they have done a great job of never having it end. So as soon as the NBA season ends, then you have the draft... free agency starts... summer league... then Kyrie demands a trade... it's a soap opera. It is the best.

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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7861
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Michael Jordan is the GOAT, followed by LeBron, Kareem, Tim Duncan, and Magic Johnson

I'll go MJ 1. I'll go LeBron 2—still counting, though... Then at three, I would go Kareem. Four, I would go probably Tim. Then five, I would go Magic. Magic and Kobe are really, really close.

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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7863
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Magic Johnson is the face of the Lakers and the best Laker of all time over Kobe Bryant

I would still say Magic is the face of the Lakers. I think from a personality standpoint and just generationally, like Kobe was amazing what he was able to do... but I would still say Magic is the face of the Lakers.

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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2918
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is an internet troll and a disturbed individual

[Kevin Durant] is an internet troll, but I think more important than that, he is a disturbed individual. And this most recent spur of activity that he's been doing from getting caught responding to himself to his apologies that he's been issuing... I've swung 360 degrees.

The sentiment that KD's burner account saga was 'disturbed' or at least highly unusual became a consensus view in sports media.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2925
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

LeBron James is the best player of our generation

LeBron to me is the best player of our generation. LeBron is the best player that I've ever played against so over my 17 years in this league. But it's weird because he is the best player I've ever played with. I played with Tim Duncan, I played with Jason Kidd... I've seen Tim do some absurd shit. Jay Kidd I got to see every day... but LeBron is the best.

Whether LeBron is the best is subjective, but he is universally ranked as one of the top two players in NBA history.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2926
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Steph Curry's comments about the Cavs' locker room smelling like champagne were disrespectful

That's why Steph made those comments about, 'oh, I hope their locker room still smells like champagne.' He said that after they won the first championship and they beat Cleveland in game six. And it was kind of a shot. It's a little disrespectful to say that. I love Steph, I don't know if he meant it to be really disrespectful, but yeah, you say that, it's like, 'hey, it was a good win.'

This is a subjective interpretation of a quote's intent, but it reflects the genuine tension between those two teams at the time.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2927
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

NBA players are unfairly criticized for moving teams compared to teams trading players

Kairi [Kyrie], what Boston did to Isaiah [Thomas], you know, it's just a part of our job... and yes it personally connected and it hurts at times. But when players decide to leave in free agency, it's 'let's burn a jersey.' No, this guy we gave you... when KD decided to go and do what he wanted to do with Golden State... we aren't allowed to do it without being criticized. But team can trade the players. They can play chess with us as much as they want.

The sentiment of 'player empowerment' and the critique of team loyalty became a massive talking point in the years following this interview.
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Take Slip·Aug 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0825-2968
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It is only socially acceptable to burn LeBron James' jersey

Any player that is a traitor to the town that he was born in and then leaves twice. That's fair. So LeBron James. It is now socially acceptable only to burn LeBron James' jersey.

Social acceptability is subjective, but the take is delivered as a joke regarding LeBron's unique status.
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Take Slip·Aug 23, 2017
#PMT-2017-0823-13637
Big CatBig Cat

Celtics fans have no right to complain about trading draft picks for Kyrie Irving

I don't understand Celtics fans that have been bitching and moaning about Danny Ainge not trading picks... and then when he does trade it, being like, well, we should have held on to that pick. Because you just got a guy who is [a] top five scorer in the NBA, a guy who can score in the finals of the NBA finals.

While Kyrie was an All-Star in Boston, the tenure ended poorly with no finals appearances, and the pick traded (which became Collin Sexton) was valuable, though not franchise-altering.
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Take Slip·Aug 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0816-6121
Dikembe MutomboDikembe Mutombo

I am the best defensive player of all time

No, I'm still number one. [Over Dellavedova]... Yeah, I think I was the best I've ever done it.

Subjective ranking, though Mutombo is statistically and award-wise one of the top 3-5 defenders in NBA history.
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Take Slip·Aug 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0816-6122
Dikembe MutomboDikembe Mutombo

The 'Who wants to sex Mutombo' story is completely false

I have defended myself. I have splendid myself, and I continue to splendid myself. Nobody don't know where that story come from... That story is not true. And I always even ask Alonzo Mourning, where did you get it? He said, no, somebody told me too.

While it's impossible to verify a negative, Mutombo has consistently denied this his entire life. It remains a 'he-said/he-said' between him and other 90s NBA stars.
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#PMT-2017-0811-19576
Big CatBig Cat

Coach K uses surgery as an excuse to take a break when his team is struggling

Coach K. He just gets a surgery every fucking day. ... Usually when his team's like, oh, maybe the number one recruiting class isn't so good. ... he's had every part operated on, so he doesn't really have any other excuses.

This is a subjective conspiracy theory common among Duke haters.
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#PMT-2017-0809-5322
Big CatBig Cat

The Detroit Pistons 90s horse logo jersey is one of the worst ever

My number one was the Pistons throwback. Remember when the Pistons changed their logo in the 90s? The green and yellow and red horse. The worst jersey criteria is when the original jersey was great and the original logo was great. They're like, we're just going to make everything weird colors.

Subjective opinion on aesthetics.
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Take Slip·Jul 28, 2017
#PMT-2017-0728-13141
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I would bet on Stephen A. Smith in a fight against LeBron James

I would put money on Stephen A. Smith in a fight against LeBron James.

LeBron James is 6'9" and 250lbs of elite muscle; Stephen A. Smith is a sports journalist. The outcome is obvious but the fight never happened.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-719
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyrie Irving requesting a trade proves he is a 'beta' player

So Kyrie, not an alpha, right? ... Well, there you go. So that means he's not an alpha. Current beta. He's currently robbing LeBron James Batman. He's self-admitting that he's a beta. ... By asking for a trade, you're telling on yourself that you've been a beta for the last five years.

This is a subjective characterization typical of PFT's persona.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16984
JJ WattJJ Watt

Michael Jordan is better than LeBron James

[Gun to your head] I mean, you go with MJ.

The GOAT debate is a matter of opinion.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16986
JJ WattJJ Watt

LeBron James' career is an incredible feat given the spotlight he has faced since age 18

For what [LeBron]'s had to handle from such a young age... to have the entire world spotlight on you, expecting you to be great, and to go out there and to live up to all the hype that people have put on you. And also have a clean record off the court... that's incredible.

This is a subjective assessment of LeBron's career management and legacy.
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Take Slip·Jul 7, 2017
#PMT-2017-0707-2036
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You can't make Boston racism jokes about Gordon Hayward if he's coming from Utah

One first hot seat is people making Boston racism jokes and saying that Gordon [Hayward] went to Boston because he liked... casual racism. Guess what? You can't say that if he goes from Utah. Doesn't work that way.

The joke relies on the subjective cultural reputations of the two cities.
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#PMT-2017-0628-17381
Big CatBig Cat

The Bulls front office vote for Executive of the Year was a self-vote by Gar Foreman

Gar Foreman, he got a single vote for executive of the year. ... I still think it was himself I think it was himself it's like James Harden getting one vote for defensive player of the year yeah survey says it was himself

It's a secret ballot, so it is unverifiable, but fits the 'Fire GarPax' narrative of the era.
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#PMT-2017-0626-2154
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Love is the perfect fall guy for LeBron James because he won't talk back

Actually we kind of predicted this, that Kevin Love was going to be the fall guy. Everyone knows you need a fall guy. Chris Carter told everyone, need a fall guy. Kevin Love is the perfect fall guy for LeBron [James] because Kevin Love's never going to say anything. He's not going to subtweet. He's just going to go about his business.

This is a subjective interpretation of team dynamics and media narratives.
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Take Slip·Jun 21, 2017
#PMT-2017-0621-4552
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James is the actual General Manager of the Cleveland Cavaliers

It's funny because people do make the joke that LeBron James is the GM of the Cavaliers, but you can tell from some of the trades. Like the Channing Frye trade, you can tell which one's not a LeBron trade. It's like if you listen to a Beatles album, you're like, Ringo wrote that song. I can tell that's a Ringo special.

While LeBron had immense influence, David Griffin was the official GM until this episode's events.
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